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Who was Frank Ross ?

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Pam

Pam Report 21 Jun 2013 20:35

Thank you for your help everybody. I guess Frank Ross will have to remain a complete mystery. I would guess he was already married and Frank was not his correct name.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 17:26

Just a PS:

Deaths Mar 1921 (>99%)
Ross Albert E 90 Hastings 2b 36

Pam

Pam Report 20 Jun 2013 16:55

Well at least it seems Frank was truthful when he said he came from London but I am not so sure that was actually called Frank.

Thank you for you help.

EDIT: Deleted duplicate of this message. Kept getting ERROR message at the time.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 16:11

There's a family tree on Ancestry for Albert with a lot of (unverified) info about his family.
It says his father was George Ross from Cork, Ireland.
Only one sibling listed. No mention of Frank.

Doesn't mean there isn't a link somewhere!

Pam

Pam Report 20 Jun 2013 13:13

Oh this is tantilising !! I had hoped that Mary Georgina was going to help me find Frank (or whatever name he had) but that is obviously not so. Perhaps it is Albert Ernest Ross he was related to.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 12:52

Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%)
Ross Alexandrina V 82 Wokingham 2c 391

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 12:47

Albert Ernest in 1881 & 1891:



1881 England Census about Albert E. Ross
Name: Albert E. Ross
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 30 Chepstow Villas
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Colonel In Army

Registration District: Kensington
Sub-registration District: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 29
Folio: 62
Page Number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
Lizzie East 29
Albert E. Ross 45 (unmarried)
June Bell 20


1891 England Census about Albert E Ross
Name: Albert E Ross
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Bayswaler, London, England
[Bayswater, London, England]

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: retired army officer (colonel)

Condition as to marriage: M

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Kensington
Sub-registration District: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 19
Folio: 8
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert E Ross 60
Harriett Davis 51 (Servant)
Percival R Champion 26 (Visitor)

Potty

Potty Report 20 Jun 2013 12:44

Oh, Albert was a very naughty boy! At least 4 other women named in the divorce documents.

Albert and Alexandrina were married in 1849 in Mauritius.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 12:42

If the above is her marriage, then here she is in 1881 & 1891. James is a retired tea planter. Lots of servants:


1881 England Census about Mary A. Martin
Name: Mary A. Martin
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James A.N. Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Havant
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: West Leigh House
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Havant
Sub-registration District: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1137
Folio: 104
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
James A.N. Martin 38
Mary A. Martin 27
Claude N. Martin
Mary E. Hayward 24
Sarah Lizzie Englissh 32
Elizabeth Yeatman 23
Esther Goldstone 32
Priscilla Mensell 22


and 1891:


1891 England Census about Claude N Martin
Name: Claude N Martin
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James A N Martin
Mother's Name: Mary V Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Havant
Ecclesiastical parish: St Faith
Town: Waterlooville
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Havant
Sub-registration District: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 851
Folio: 107
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
James A N Martin 48
Mary V Martin 36
Claude N Martin 10
James G F N Martin 7
Henery J Lipscomb 18
Elizabeth Hexamer 30
Mary Carpenter 19
Emma Sparks 27
Alice Colbourne 20
Mary Anderson 21

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 12:35

Possibly her marriage??

Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%)
MARTIN James Adam N St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 475
Ross Mary Georgina St Geo H Sq 1a 475

Potty

Potty Report 20 Jun 2013 12:33

Looks like Albert and Alexandrina divorced:

UK, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1911
about Alexandrina Victoria Ross




Name:
Alexandrina Victoria Ross

Gender:
Female

Spouse Name:
Albert Ernest Ross

Spouse Gender:
Male

Petition Year:
1879

Type of Record:
Wife's petition

Divorce Court File Number:
6297

Potty

Potty Report 20 Jun 2013 12:30

All the family in the 1871 Scotland census were born England.

Potty

Potty Report 20 Jun 2013 12:25

Baptised the same day:

Name:Henrietta Mary Ross
Gender:Female
Birth Date:17 Apr 1852
Christening Date:20 Jun 1854
Christening Place:Darlaston (near Wednesbury), Staffordshire, England

Age at Christening:2
Father's Name:Albert Ernest Ross
Mother's Name:Alexandria Victoria

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 12:23

The family are in Scotland in 1871, but not Mary/Clara


1871 Scotland Census about Henretta Ross
Name: Henretta Ross
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Albert E Ross
Mother's Name: Alexandrina Victoria Ross
Gender: Female
Where born: Mauritius
Registration number: 578/1
Registration District: Ayr Burgh
Civil Parish: Ayr
Town: Subusbs
County: Ayrshire
Address: South Lodge
ED: 13
Household Schedule Number: 14
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1871_106
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert E Ross 41
Alexandrina Victoria Ross 39
Henretta Ross 18
Florence G Ross 11
Beatrice I Ross 10
Mabel L Ross 3
Jesse Frases 30
Larmen Rachetson 30
Mary Cumming 16

Potty

Potty Report 20 Jun 2013 12:22

There is this baptism but not in London:

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Mary Georgina Ross
Name:Mary Georgina Ross
Gender:Female
Birth Date:22 Mar 1854
Christening Date:20 Jun 1854
Christening Place:Darlaston (near Wednesbury), Staffordshire, England

Age at Christening:0
Father's Name:Albert Ernest Ross
Mother's Name:Alexandria Victoria

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2013 12:20

Hi, Pam -
do you mean Clara Georgina Ross?



1861 England Census about Clara Georgina Ross
Name: Clara Georgina Ross
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abert Ernest Ross
Mother's Name: Victoria Alescandine Ross
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Farnham
Town: Aldershot
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Farnham
Sub-registration District: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 116
Piece: 430
Folio: 86
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Abert Ernest Ross 30
Victoria Alescandine Ross 29
Henrietta Mary Ross 9
Clara Georgina Ross 7
Cathleen Emily Ross 5
Florence Geraline Ross 1
Not Yet Named Ross 1 Months
Caroline Stewart 40
Lavinia Ruckstnam 23
Elizabeth Brill 25
Emily Hawkins 19

Potty

Potty Report 20 Jun 2013 12:19

Her birth reg:

Name:Mary Georgina Ross

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1854
Registration District:Kensington
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:26

Ancestry ties her up to this census (it's a school, so I haven't listed all the names):

1871 England Census
about Georgina Ross
Name:Georgina Ross
Age:16
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1855
Relation:Scholar
Where born:London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish:
Islington St Luke

Ecclesiastical parish:
St Luke

County/Island:
London

Country:
England

Registration District:
Islington

Sub-registration District:
Islington West

Pam

Pam Report 20 Jun 2013 12:01

Please can anybody find, on the 1851 or 1861 census, Mary Georgina Ross born 1854 in London and married 1878 St. George Hanover Square. Father's name Albert Ernest Ross, Colonel 5th Fusiliers.

Pam

Pam Report 20 Jun 2013 10:33

The address on the baptism record for Mary Georgina Ross is the same as that given on Frank Ross's Death Certificate.

Pam

Pam Report 20 Jun 2013 09:06

Some documents I have give Frank as a Gasfitter or Plumber and some say Potman. Probably a Gasfitter prior to his illness and then a Potman (collector/washer of dirty glasses/pots) to earn some money when too ill to be a Plumber.