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Hi everyone, I am trying to trace my great granddad without much success. His name is Francis Bovey born 1846 approx in Lambeth London. He married Eliza Harrison born approx 1857 in Bristol. I can find him from the Ancestry site in the 1891 census as Francis Bobby with Eliza and children and in 1901 census as Franersese Bovey with eliza and children. This seems to be as far as I can get. I cant find a marriage certificate for them and i cant trace him earlier living at home so i could go back to his father etc.
I think the problem that is not helping is that he had a son and called him Francis and i believe his brother called his son Francis just to complicate things!
If anyone can help I would be really grateful.
Many thanks
Lesley

Births Dec 1843
Bovey Francis Henry Lambeth 4 300

Roy

Possible Baptism from Ancestry

Name: Francis Henry Bovey
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1844
Father's Name: John Bovey....Occupation Tailor
Mother's Name: Sarah Bovey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 2 October 1843
Residing: Jebb Place

Chris

If you cannot find his marriage then how do you no he married Eliza Harrison?

Possible marriage?
Marriages Mar 1872

BOVEY Francis Henry Bethnal Green 1c 403 >>>>>>>>
Dring George Bethnal Green 1c 403
Howe Sarah Bethnal Green 1c 403
Perkins Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 403 >>>>>>>>>>>>


Roy

1851

Name: Francis Henry Bovey
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Bovey
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Southwark St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: St George Southwark
Sub-registration District: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 18
Piece: 1565
Folio: 239
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Bovey 36 Married, b. Westminster
John Joseph J Bovey 19 Son, Jobbing Labourer, b. Westminster
Francis Henry Bovey 7
Fredk Thos Bovey 2

???

Name: John Bovey
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-registration District: Waterloo Road Second
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1061
Book: 5
Folio: 16
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bovey 30 Occ. Tailor
Sarah Bovey 26
John Bovey 10
Georgiana Bovey 6

The marriage Roy gave has Francis marrying Sarah.
Francis' father given as John Bovey occupation Tailor.

Chris

1861

Name: Francis H Bovey
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah Bovey
Gender: Female

Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-registration District: Waterloo Road Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 75
Piece: 349
Folio: 85
Page Number: 13

Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Bovey 46...Married...Shirt Maker...Born Poplar Middlesex
Francis H Bovey 16
Frederick T Bovey 12
Georgianna Bovey 6

Residing: Granby Place

The couple who married in 1872!

Name: Francis Bovey
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: St Saviours, Surrey
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-District: Christ Church
Parish: Christ Church
County: London, Surrey
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Francis Bovey M 24 St Saviours, Surrey
Wife Sarah Bovey F 21 St Saviours, Surrey

many thanks for all your replies. I have my granddads birth certificate (Samuel Bovey born 28 April 1887) His father is Francis Bovey (waterside labourer) and his mother is Eliza Bovey formerly Harrison living at 7 Dobbs Cross.
Also the John Bovey (Taylor) I found is married to Susan Mary Adams. Married in Ipplepen devon.

Lesley

Please post the full info of one of the census records to which you refer.............

EDIT

OK..............I've found 1901

1901 census


BOVEY, Francesese Head Married M 50 1851 Hawker
New Cut Lambeth, London VIEW
BOVEY, Eliza Wife Married F 44 1857
Bristol VIEW
BOVEY, Sarah Daughter Single F 16 1885
Borough White ST VIEW
BOVEY, Samuel Son M 13 1888
Borough Dobbs Cross VIEW
BOVEY, Emma Daughter F 11 1890
Borough Dobbs Cross

As Reggie says that 1872 marriage doesn't appear to be your Francis.

Name: Francis Henry Bovey <<<Occ. Costermonger
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Sarah Howe
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jan 1872
Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Bovey, Occ Tailor
Spouse Father Name: William Howe
Register Type: Parish Register

1891

Name: Francis Bobby
[Francis Bovey]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bobby
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration District: Kent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 344
Folio: 123
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Bobby 45 Waterside Labourer
Eliza Bobby 35 b. SOUTHWARK
Francis Bobby 14
Sarah Bobby 7
Samuel Bobby 4
Emma Bobby 9/12

Chances are they didn't actually marry...............

So Francis was married twice?

1881

Name: Francis Bovey
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis H. Bovey
Mother's Name: Sarah Bovey
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 23 Camperdown Pl
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration District: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 558
Folio: 54
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis H. Bovey 20 <<<<<Labourer Waterside
Sarah Bovey 23
Francis Bovey 4
John Bovey 1

So this is Samuel?

1891
Name: Samuel Bobby
[Samuel Bovey]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis Bobby
Mother's Name: Eliza Bobby
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, London, England
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration District: Kent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 344
Folio: 123
Page Number: 23
Household Members:

Name Age
Francis Bobby 45...Waterside Labourer
Eliza Bobby 35....Born Southwark
Francis Bobby 14
Sarah Bobby 7
Samuel Bobby 4
Emma Bobby 9/12

Not seeing a death for Sarah before 1891 - perhaps Francis wasn't free to marry Elizabeth?

Interesting?

1881 census


Person: BOVEY, Francis Address: 23, Camperdown Pl, Bermondsey

BOVEY, Francis H Head Married M 20 1861 Laborer Waterside
Lambeth, Surrey VIEW
BOVEY, Sarah Wife Married F 23 1858
Chatham, Kent VIEW
BOVEY, Francis Son Single M 4 1877
Bermondsey, Surrey VIEW
BOVEY, John Son Single M 1 1880
Bermondsey, Surrey

A little strange

Name: Samuel Frederick Bovey
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 May 1887
Father's Name: Frederick Bovey>>>>>>Waterside labourer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bovey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

My 'take' on it is that he was married to Sarah, but at some stage after 1881 census, he left her, and took up with Eliza(beth) , with whom he fathered more children.

The baptism matches the info from the birth cert in Lesley's possession.