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Richard Charles Hurley (circa 1830)

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Tonia

Tonia Report 8 Jul 2013 19:56

I'm searching for additional information on Richard Charles Hurley. He married Louisa Mary Cleary in 1861 on the Isle of Wight, UK. They had two children: Charles and Arthur. Richard was killed in an explosion on board a ship near Southampton, UK. He was with the Coast Guard and working out of Bermbridge, IOW. I understand that Richard was born in Ireland, perhaps Cork. I believe his father's name was Charles. Any information would be appreciation. His widow later married Alfred Loynes, my great-grandfather.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Jul 2013 19:58

Which census have you found him on ?

Got any certs such as the marriage cert ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Jul 2013 20:02

No middle name given


Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
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Cleary Louisa Mary I.Wight 2b 653
Hurley Richard I. Wight 2b 653

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Jul 2013 20:13

1871 not a lot of help

Name: Charles R Harley
[Charles Richard Hurley]
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, Shanklin
Civil Parish: Brading
Ecclesiastical parish: Sandown Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration District: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration District: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household Schedule Number: 240
Piece: 1168
Folio: 41
Page Number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Cleary 58
Charles R Harley 7
Arthur R Harley 4

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Jul 2013 20:26

Name Hurley, Richard
Place of Birth: Kinsall, Cork
Continuous Service Number: 19042
Date of Volunteering: 30 December 1854
Date of Birth: 25 December 1827

(not sure if him, Navy Record available from below £3.36, Sons also)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/royal-naval-seamen.htm

Chris :)


1863 HURLEY
Charles Richard CLEARY Ryde
1866 HURLEY
Arthur Robert CLEARY Ryde

http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.htm

Tonia

Tonia Report 8 Jul 2013 21:12

I have the marriage certificate. I haven't found him on any census.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Jul 2013 22:23

1861 poss

Name: Richard Harley
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Brading
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration District: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 30
Piece: 659
Folio: 121
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Harley 32

Listed as unmarried and occupation of coast guard.

Class: RG 9; Piece: 659; Folio: 121; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542680.



1861
Name: Louisa M Clarey
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Martha Clarey
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Brading
Ecclesiastical parish: Bembridge Holy Trinity
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration District: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 44
Piece: 659
Folio: 112
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Clarey 40
Louisa M Clarey 17

Class: RG 9; Piece: 659; Folio: 112; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542680.



1871 ?
Name: Louisa M Harley
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Brompton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Whippingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: East Cowes
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration District: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration District: Cowes
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household Schedule Number: 275
Piece: 1160
Folio: 103
Page Number: 47

Class: RG10; Piece: 1160; Folio: 103; Page: 47; GSU roll: 827795.



When did Richard die ?

Tonia

Tonia Report 9 Jul 2013 13:55

He died in 1866 in an explosion on board ship. The ship he was returning on was preparing to do a gun salute to Queen Victoria as they passed. He hadn't cleaned the gun (cannon) out properly and it exploded.

Reggie

Reggie Report 9 Jul 2013 16:18

Tonia

You haven't added one word of acknowledgement relating to the info posted................

Tonia

Tonia Report 9 Jul 2013 16:31

I've responded to those that have asked me questions. All the information about his wife and children I already have. I'm trying to find out more about Richard Hurley prior to his marriage and learn about his origins. I don't see that you have posted information.

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Jul 2013 19:52

If you have the marriage certificate could you give us his age and father's name and occupation

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Jul 2013 19:56

I assume this is from your tree

Richard Charles Hurley
Birth: 1830 - Ireland
Death: 1866 - Southampton, England
Marriage: 1861 - Isle of Wight, England
Parents: Charles Hurley
Spouse: Louisa Mary Cleary


as you hadn't got any census records for him I'm wondering where you got his birthplace from

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Jul 2013 21:56

Tonia

We sometimes have to post info that you probably already have so we can get an idea of what we can do to help.

Have you checked out the 1861 census I posted as a possible for Richard ?

GB

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Jul 2013 22:00

Is this the death registration ?

Deaths Sep 1866 (>99%)
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Harley Richard 37 S. Stoneham 2c 40

Tonia

Tonia Report 10 Jul 2013 01:57

Yes, that would appear to be his death registration although I've never been able to locate a death certificate or cemetary burial for him before. 1866 is certainly his year of death. Any idea where Stoneham is?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2013 08:57

Tonia....

Stoneham is in Hampshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Jul 2013 12:08

Tonia

Are you using FreeBMD
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Going back to the possible death I posted for 1866. Find it on FreeBMD.

Click on S. Stoneham which is in blue. It opens another window and you will see:
The district S. Stoneham is an alternative name for South Stoneham and it is in the county of Hampshire; information about it can be found here

The word "here" is in blue so click on that and it will give you a list of all towns that come under South Stoneham.

If you have the name of a town but do not know which registration district it comes under then use this site:

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/



GB

Tonia

Tonia Report 10 Jul 2013 12:34

The marriage certificate has this info:

Marriage: March 2 , 1862 - Bembridge, Southampton, IOW
Groom: Richard Hurley, Bachelor, age 31, coast guard
Bride: Louisa Mary Cleary, Spinster, age 18
Father of the groom: Charles Hurley, tallow chandler
Father of the bride: John Cleary, domestic servant
Witnesses were William Fogarty and Hannah Humphrys

Richard's date of dearh is August 15, 1866. The ship's name was HMS Irresistable


Thank you for the info on the freebmd, I will check it out.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jul 2013 14:40

Tonia....Dont know if you have seen this snippet....

Sandown Rescue. 1866.



During a strong gale three vessels were driven into Sandown Bay and were likely to be driven ashore. The Sandown Coastguards fired signal rockets to warn the ships of the danger; all three turned away but a Swedish brig, carrying a crew of twelve struck. The crew cut away the masts to try and save the vessel. The Sandown Coastguards decided to try and mount a rescue, there was a problem as Chief Officer Bunt had sent two Coastguards to Culver Down to confirm the other two vessels cleared Culver headland. He was therefore two men short for a full crew. He sought volunteers from the local fishermen to no avail. Some men volunteered but were refused, as the Chief Officer wanted men accustomed to heavy boat work. Fortunately, a Coastguard arrived from the Shanklin Station, **Richard Hurley** and two volunteers John Hyde and John Raynor, made up the crew, which consisted of John Bunt, Robert Hoar, John Moran, William Jennings (Sandown Coastguards) Richard Hurley (Shanklin Coastguard) and the two volunteers. The Coastguards made two unsuccessful attempts to reach the brig and about 1.30 am the brig started to break up. The Coastguards made a third attempt and rescued one man. On a forth attempt six men were rescued but on the return some planks on the boat were stove in and the boat filled with water, however, it managed to reach the shore safely.

Tonia

Tonia Report 10 Jul 2013 15:52

Yes, I'm aware of that article. It's very sad as that happened in March 1866 and he was a hero helping with rescue from the Brig. Then in August he dies as a result of his carelessness packing and cleaning the ship gun. I believe that he was in a hurry to get home and see his new baby who would have only been months old at the time. Putting these pieces of the puzzle together made me more interested in learning more about him. His wife, Louisa Mary was my maternal great-grandmother. Her 2nd marriage to Alfred Loynes (the father of my grandmother) was not a happy one.