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Hester Withy

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Clare

Clare Report 14 Jul 2013 10:21

Hi - this is my first post so please forgive anything I may be doing wrong!

I have come up against a brick wall in trying to find my great grandmother. My father believes her name was Hester Withy, born around 1870 and she lived in Carlingcott which is between Bath and Bristol.

My father's details are - Michael Desmond Somerset Cormack, born 1925 and his mother's details are Lillian Chivers, born c1900 - they are both from Bath, Somerset.

Clare

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:25

Clare

Do you know about........................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

The place to look for all BMD's between 1837 and approx 1955

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:27

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Britten George Clutton 5c 1051 Scan available - click to view
Carter Elizabeth Clutton 5c 1051 Scan available - click to view
Chivers Farnham Clutton 5c 1051 Scan available - click to view
VRANCH Elizabeth Clutton 5c 1051

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Jul 2013 10:30

Hello Clare, welcome to the boards!

Was Hester your father's grandmother on his mother's or father's side?

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:34

What was your grandfather Cormack's first name?

I can't see any trace of a marriage...........

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jul 2013 10:34

Clare, you need to work your way back to 'Hester'. Do you know. which of your grandparents was her child?
Jan

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Jul 2013 10:39

I can't see a Chivers/Cormack marriage either, unless it was overseas or Lillian had been previously married.

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:40


1911 census

Person: WITHY, Hester Address: 1 Longfellow Avenue Wellsway Bath


TYDEMAN, Louise Amor Wife Married F 53 1858 Bristol Somerset VIEW
TYDEMAN, Roland Son Single M 34 1877 Grounsman London Hornsey VIEW
NICHOL, Thomas Boarder Single M 43 1868 Engineering Draughtsman Jarrow Durham VIEW
WITHY, Hester Visitor Widow F 52 1859 Carlingcott Somerset

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jul 2013 10:41

Does this make any kind of sense? Or was her maiden name 'Withy' and this is the wrong way round??

1871 England Census
Name: Hester Chivers
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Chivers
Mother's Name: Caroline Chivers
Gender: Female
Where born: Camerton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Camerton
Town: Carlingcott
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration District: Clutton
Sub-registration District: Midsomer Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7e
George Chivers 43
Caroline Chivers 42
William Chivers 15
Elizabeth Chivers 13
Hester Chivers 10
Emily Chivers 7
Sarah A Chivers 3
Sidney Chivers 1



1911 England Census about Hester Witty
Name: Hester Witty
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Carlingcott, Somerset
Civil Parish: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Longfellow Avenue, Wellsway, Bath, Somerset
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration District: Bath
Registration District Number: 316
Sub-registration District: Lyncombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household Schedule Number: 339
Piece: 14699
Household Members:
Name Age
Louise Amos Tydeman 53
Roland Tydeman 24
Thomas Nichol 43
Hester Witty 52

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:43

??????


Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)
Chivers Hester Clutton 5c 825 Scan available - click to view
EVANS Arthur Henry Clutton 5c 825 Scan available - click to view
Norton Julia Clutton 5c 825 Scan available - click to view
Paul John William T Clutton 5c 825

Clare

Clare Report 14 Jul 2013 10:45

Hester was my father's grandmother on his mother's side.

Afraid my father has no recollection of his grandfather on his mother's side (ie Hester's husband.)

It is odd that my father's mother - Lilian Chivers, had a different maiden name from her mother, which was supposedly Withy??

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jul 2013 10:48

Clare, please re-track a bit! Do you have Lilian's marriage details - I am wondering if she put a name for her father?
Jan

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:50

It was YOUR grandfather whose name I asked for....................ie. your father's father.............Mr Cormack

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Jul 2013 10:51

Hi Clare, for us to work back then we really need to know the names of both your father's parents. I know Hester is allegedly from the maternal side but we need verification to make sure we're following the right people.

If Lilian had a different surname to her mother then it may be because her mother had remarried at some point.

As we've stated above we're having trouble finding an obvious marriage for Lilian.

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:52

When and where did Lilian die?

What was her surname at the time?

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:52

Please tell us if the woman found for you in 1911 is the right one.............

there's no record of a death under that name..............

Clare

Clare Report 14 Jul 2013 10:54

Reggie - sorry, my father's father is Sidney O'Connell Cormack (O'Connell is a christian name rather than part of the surname) born 1883 - 1942

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 10:57

That's OK..........................

Was he Irish?

Deaths Jun 1942 (>99%)
Cormack Sidney O 59 Bath 5c 916

The death is the only record of his name on freebmd............

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Jul 2013 10:59

Could this be the marriage?

Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: CORMACK, O'connell Sidney

Registration district: Bath
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1907
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 923

MarriageFinder: O'connell Sidney Cormack married one of the following people:

CHIVERS, Lily <<<
HITCHINS, Elizabeth Annie
LITTEN, William

(Have amended post to different version showing other people on page)

So, Lily/Lillian must have been born a lot earlier than 1900 as she couldn't have married at 7!

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jul 2013 11:00

You may need to invest in Lilian's birth cert........................for info about her mother.