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Devon with surname PATT - HELP STILL WANTED PLEASE

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Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 16:11

Hi, I am having trouble finding my relatives with the surname PATT. My grandmother was called Emmeline Patt born 1913 and I believe her parents to be William Patt born 1882 and Beatrice Patt, nee Turner, born 1882. They lived in Atherington around the 1910's. I cant seem to go much further. I think William's parents were John and Elizabeth Patt, living in Torrington (born 1844 and 1846). Also can anyone tell me what business was held in South Street, Torrington as a few of Williams sisters worked there, but I cannot decipher what their occupation was as on the census records it looks like "Fr CP"??? Kind regards Sarah

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Margee

Margee Report 19 Jul 2013 16:32

Is this the family in 1911?

1911 England Census
about William Patt Name: William Patt
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Yarnscombe, Devon
Civil Parish: Atherington
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Umberleigh Cottage, R S O, Umberleigh
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration District: Barnstaple
Registration District Number: 284
Sub-registration District: Bishops Tawton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household Schedule Number: 32
Piece: 13380
Household Members: Name Age
William Patt 29
Beatrice Patt 29
Ivy Patt 7
Elizabeth Patt 5
Edith Patt 4
Doris Patt 2



Thelma

Thelma Report 19 Jul 2013 16:32

1891
First Name:JOHN
Last Name:PATT
Birth Year:1844
Age:47
Birth County:DEVONSHIRE
Birth Town:
Birth Place:
Relationship:HEAD
Gender:M
Occupation:FARMER
Condition:MARRIED
Street:LANGRIDGEFORD
Parish:ATHERINGTON
Town:ATHERINGTON
City:
County:Devon
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:ATHERINGTON
Enumeration District:2
Municipal Ward:
Parliamentary Borough:BARNSTAPLE
Registration District:BARNSTABLE
Record set:1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Archive Reference:RG12
Folio:15
Page:7
Piece Number:1780
Category:Census, Land & Surveys


First Name
Last Name
Age
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ELIZABETH PATT 33
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EDITH PATT 13
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WILLIAM PATT 9
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FRED PATT 6
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ALBERT PATT 4
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HENRY PATT 0
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GEORGE BUTCHERS 20

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 16:39

Yes it is...but I cant seem to get further than this! :-(

Potty

Potty Report 19 Jul 2013 16:41

There is this:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about William Henry Patt
Name:William Henry Patt
Probate Date:25 Feb 1957
Death Date:3 Feb 1957
Death Place:Devonshire, England
Registry:Exeter

Died Eastleigh Westleigh near Bideford. Probate to Beatrice Patt widow, effects £222.19s

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 16:43

Oh wow, that is really helpful, thank you!

Margee

Margee Report 19 Jul 2013 16:44

You say you believe her parents to be William & Beatrice. Why not get her birth certificate to be sure?

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Patt Emmeline B Turner Barnstaple 5b 777

Margee

Margee Report 19 Jul 2013 16:45

I see you've marked it as answered. Do you not want any more help?

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 16:45

Yes I have her birth certificate

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 16:46

I do want more help, Im just getting into a bit of a pickle with this message board. Im new forgive me. I would like any help anyone could give me and I would really appreciate it! Thank you Sarah

Potty

Potty Report 19 Jul 2013 16:47

The family in 1881:


1881 England Census
about Edith Mary Patt



Name:
Edith Mary Patt
Age:2
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1879
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:John Patt
Mother's Name:Elizabeth Patt
Where born:St Giles, Devon, England
Civil Parish:Yarnscombe
County/Island:Devon
Country:England
Street Address:Langridge Ford

John Patt 36
Elizabeth Patt 26
Edith Mary Patt

If you look for Edith's birth and get the cert, it will give you Elizabeth's maiden name. You can then look for her marriage to John.

Margee

Margee Report 19 Jul 2013 16:48

If you buy the marriage certificate you'll get fathers' names:

Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Patt William Torrington 5b 1055
Turner Beatrice Torrington 5b 1055

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 16:49

Great thank you so much

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 19 Jul 2013 16:50

Which census year are you looking at where you can't decipher the occupation and what are their first names?

Kath. x

Potty

Potty Report 19 Jul 2013 16:55

Sarah, can you try to remove the Answered tick as people will think that you don't want any more help. If you can't remove it, can you add to the title something like "help still wanted"?

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 16:59

Hello Kath, the census year is 1841 and I cannot decipher either of the girls occupation. First one is called Elizabeth Patt born 1826 in Torrington living in South Street and the second is called Grace Patt born 1822 also living in South Street.

Potty

Potty Report 19 Jul 2013 17:04

The only sister I can find for William is the Edith in the censuses above.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 19 Jul 2013 17:04

The occupation for Elizabeth and Grace is F.S. = Female Servant.

I was confused as I thought you meant sisters of William born 1882.

It looks like Grace was a servant in the household of a surgeon.

Kath. x

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 17:05

I wonder if I have gone off track and am looking at another family?

Sarah

Sarah Report 19 Jul 2013 17:06

Oh thank you Kath, I thought I was getting it all wrong then! Thank you for that information, I could not work it out at all!