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John Richard Goodwin Brewer

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SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 29 Jul 2013 23:41

I can find John Richard Goodwin Brewer b Blackpool on 1891 Census but not on 1901 or 1911. Would anyone like to help me please. Thank You

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 29 Jul 2013 23:48

Maybe Fylde ,Blackpool

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Jul 2013 23:54

Can you post the 1891 to show year of birth and his location

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 29 Jul 2013 23:59

It says 1883 Glitterbaby

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Jul 2013 23:59

??

Name: John Richard G Brewer
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1908
Registration District: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 692


So is there another one with similar name ?

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jul 2013 00:05

I don't know but a experienced volunteer told me this Does he have any siblings?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 00:07

Well I am struggling with this at the moment as not finding a match for that name and place of birth

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jul 2013 00:16

Your date of birth is right according to his Navy record but the 1891 has him as 8 ??

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 00:17

Well can you post the 1891 as I have asked

Who is he with on the 1891 ?

Anything ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 00:28

Is Ethel his mother or a sister ?

Which town are they in ?

Is he shown as John Brewer ?

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jul 2013 00:31

I don't know how to post census but He is with
Richard G (father)
Sarah (mother

Harriet
George
Sarah Ann
Then John R G
Louisa
Ethel

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jul 2013 00:58

b. Blackpool but connection to Sculcoates Hull ???

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jul 2013 01:05

He was killed on H.M.S. Fifeshire Feb 1940. if that gives you something to work back on.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 01:09

1891 ??

Name: John R Brower
[John R Brewer]
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard Brower
Mother's Name: Sarah A Brower
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Newington
Town: Newington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub-registration District: Hessle
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3918
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Brower 43
Sarah A Brower 39
George W Brower 13
Sarah A Brower 13
John R Brower 8
Laura L Brower 5
Ethel B Brower 1

Class: RG12; Piece: 3918; Folio: 8; Page: 10; GSU Roll: 6099028.


Best i can find but does not match on place of birth are on names of siblings

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jul 2013 01:19

That's the best I can do.. Have you any Idea how I can find out any certainties Please. Thank you for your Time and Efforts
Regards George

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 01:54

:-S

This is probably the birth for the one on 1891 census

Name: John Richard Brewer
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1883
Registration District: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 248



But the entry on CWGC is this

BREWER, JOHN RICHARD GOODWIN
Rank:Seaman Cook
Service No:LT/JX 165972
Date of Death:20/02/1940
Regiment/Service:Royal Naval Patrol Service
H.M. Trawler Fifeshire.
Panel ReferencePanel 4, Column 2.
MemorialLOWESTOFT NAVAL MEMORIAL


So is this the death of the one born 1908 rather than 1883 ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 01:56

??

Name: John R Brewer
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Mar 1932
Age at Death: 47
Registration District: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 363

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 02:14

1911 ??

Name: John Brewer
Age in 1911: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Blackpool, Lancaster, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Elm Grove Liverpool St Hull
Registration District: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration District: Hessle
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 28641
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Brewer 25 - born Blackpool
John Brewer 2

Married 3 years. 1 child born


This could be the one born in 1908. Matches on place of birth as Blackpool and has the association with Sculcoates.


??
Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
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BREWER John Fylde 8e 1155
BROWN Elizabeth Fylde 8e 1155
BUSHELL Joseph Fylde 8e 1155
MORRIS Susan Fylde 8e 1155



Can you check which one you are researching

Dea

Dea Report 30 Jul 2013 10:16

Just to confirm the above findings - Lancs BMD shows that this John has mothers maiden name of 'Morris':

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

BREWER John Richard Goodwin Blackpool A Blackpool MORRIS BLKA/41/1

Dea x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 13:47

Thanks Dea.

I still can not figure out why the poster thinks the name in his title - John Richard Goodwin Brewer - is the one born in 1883

Hopefully George will clarify later