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John Wraighte 1781 Faversham

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jane

jane Report 13 Aug 2013 01:07

I am trying to find John Wraighte's (sometimes spelt Wraight) siblings and parents to be able to look further back into my ancestry. He is currently at the top of my tree. I think he married Sarah Brown (? also born 1781) in 1799 at St Mary of Charity Church in Faversham. They had 5 sons born in Faversham (Winford Brown 1800, John 1801, Thomas 1805, George Brown 1806, George Winford 1815, this info is from family members). I am a descendent from John 1801, but do not know if any of his brothers married or how long or where they lived. John 1781 worked as a gardener and lived on West st southside Faversham in 1841 census and may have lived and worked in Maidstone workhouse in 1851 census (but census states birth place as Maidstone so may not be the same John). He may have died 1862 but unsure of this and where he is buried. Also the middle name 'Brown' crops up a lot in my tree but also in other 'wraight' trees from kent dated further back than sarah brown 1781 (but not linked to my tree at present), so not sure where this name originates from. If anyone can fill in any of the many gaps in my family history as above, I would be extremely grateful as I cannot seem to get any further than this. Jane

Kiwibird

Kiwibird Report 13 Aug 2013 07:52

I found some info on John's (1801) Siblings that you might find useful.

Winford Brown Wraighte, Married Ellen Bland at Bethnal Green St Mathews, BethnalGreen, Tower Hamlets 14 November 1858. their address at time of Marriage is shown as 13 Williams Terrace. Winford's Father shown as John Wraighte [ Occ ] Gun Powder Maker and Ellen's Father is John Bland [Occ] Cabinet Maker. Winford's Occupation is shown as Gun Maker.
This Record is from the[ London England Marriage& Banns 1754-1921] on Ancestry.



Regards Kiwibird :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 10:36

Civil registration event: Death
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Name: WRAIGHT, George Brown

Registration district: [?] Sheppey

County: Kent

Year of registration: 1852

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Volume no: 2A

Page no: 334

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 10:41

family 1841
WRAIGHTE, John M 60 1781 Kent VIEW
WRAIGHTE, Sarah F 60 1781 Kent VIEW
WRAIGHTE, George M 35 1806 Kent VIEW
WRAIGHTE, Winford M 25 1816 Kent VIEW

Piece: 472

Book/Folio: 19/27

Page: 7

Registration District: Faversham Union

Civil Parish: Faversham

Municipal Borough: Faversham

Address: West Street, South Side, Faversham

County: Kent

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 10:45




London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Winford Brown Wraight
Name: Winford Brown Wraight
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Ellen Bland
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Nov 1858
Parish: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Wraight
Spouse Father Name: John Bland
Register Type: Parish Register

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 11:00

??????
View Record Thomas Wraighte Jul-Aug-Sep 1845 Edmonton Middlesex
Order
Record
View Record John Wraighte Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 Edmonton

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Aug 2013 11:22

Don't forget, age of over fifteens in census 1841 was rounded down to nearest five years, so John could have been born in later 1770s.

???

Name: John Wraight
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 Sep 1776
Christening Place: Preston-next-Faversham, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Wraight
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann Wraight
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04420-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1752061
Reference ID: it 2

It's a bit tight, but if he was born between June 1776 and his baptism on 29th Sept 1776, then he would have been 64 at the time on the census on 6th June 1841, and his age rounded down to 60 on the census form.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Aug 2013 11:27

However, just to throw a spanner in the works...

Name: John Wraight
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Oct 1784
Christening Place: Preston-next-Faversham, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Wraight
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann Wraight
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04420-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1752061
Reference ID: it 2

Indicating the one I had posted above, may well have died?

No indication of how old either John was at baptism.

Was there more than one Thomas and Ann Wraight?

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 11:32

a tree on ancestry has this,
no other information at all

1861 England Census about John Wraight
Name: John Wraight
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy Wraight
Gender: Male
Where born: Darrington, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Waltham Holy Cross
Town: Waltham Abbey
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Edmonton
Sub-registration District: Waltham Abbey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 276
Piece: 801
Folio: 26
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
John Wraight 59
Lucy Wraight 51
Mary Wraight 21
Martha Wraight 18
John Wraight 14
William Wraight 12
Frederick Wraight 10

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 11:38

????????????


Groom's Forename(s):John

Groom's Surname:Wraight

Groom's Parish:Davington

Bride's Forename(s):Sarah

Bride's Surname:Brown

Bride's Parish:Davington

Marriage Day:22

Marriage Month:Jun

Marriage Year:1799

Page:273

Place:Faversham, St Mary of Charity

County:Kent

Archive Reference:U3/146/1/10

Year Range:1754-1801

Record source:Canterbury Marriage Banns - Transcripts

Data provider:Canterbury Cathedral Archives

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 11:44

bearing in mind what Kucinta has said about census age
????
25

Month:May

Year:1846

Forename(s):Sarah

Surname:Wraight

Age:70
Page:68

Place:Faversham, St Mary of Charity

County:Kent

Archive Reference:U3/146/1/33

Year Range:1813-1837

Record source:Canterbury Burials - Transcripts

Data provider:Canterbury Cathedral Archives

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd


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Day:16

Month:Apr

Year:1851

Forename(s):John

Surname:Wraight

Age:74
Page:131

Place:Faversham, St Mary of Charity

County:Kent

Archive Reference:U3/146/1/33

Year Range:1813-1837

Record source:Canterbury Burials - Transcripts

Data provider:Canterbury Cathedral Archives

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 11:46

are these yours
:24

Month:Apr

Year:1871

Forename(s):Winford

Surname:Wraight

Age:56

Page:35

Place:Teynham, St Mary

County:Kent

Archive Reference:U3/222

Year Range:1859-1890

Record source:Canterbury Burials - Transcripts

Data provider:Canterbury Cathedral Archives

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd


Day:26

Month:Jan

Year:1800

Forename(s):Winford Brown

Surname:Wraight

Father's Forename(s):John

Mother's Forename(s):Sarah

Place:Faversham, St Mary of Charity

County:Kent

Archive Reference:U3/146/1/3

Year Range:1774-1806

Record source:Canterbury Baptisms - Transcripts

Data provider:Canterbury Cathedral Archives


Day:18

Month:Oct

Year:1801

Forename(s):Winfred Brown

Surname:Wreight

Age:0
Page:3

Place:Davington, St Mary Magdalene

County:Kent

Archive Reference:U3/138

Year Range:1785-1813

Record source:Canterbury Burials - Transcripts

Data provider:Canterbury Cathedral Archives

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Aug 2013 12:20

Bearing in mind the name of son Winford Brown Wraighte, this baptism for Sarah Brown seems quite likely...


Name: Sarah Brown<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 15 Oct 1777
Christening Place: Faversham, Kent, England<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Winford Brown<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02181-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1736720
Reference ID: item 3 p 200

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Aug 2013 12:21

Thomas ???
1851

1851 England Census about Thomas Wraight
Name: Thomas Wraight
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Wraight
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Faversham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Rye
Town: Rye
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Romney Marsh
Sub-registration District: New Romney
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 133
Piece: 1634
Folio: 308
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wraight 47
Sarah Wraight 39
William Wraight 21
Matilda Gracy 15
John Gracy 15
Jesse Gracy 12



Marriage Day:12

Marriage Month:Jul

Marriage Year:1830

Groom's Forename(s):Thomas

Groom's Surname:Wraight

Groom's Age:

Groom's Status:Bachelor

Groom's Occupation:

Groom's Residence:Peasmarsh Ssx

Bride's Forename(s):Sarah

Bride's Surname:Bodkin

Notes:

Dedication:St Mary

Place:Ashford

County:Kent

Record Source:Ashford St Mary marriages 1693-1837

Record source:Kent Marriages

Data provider:Kent Family History Society

Transcriptions © Kent Family History Society

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Aug 2013 12:26

Did Winford Brown, Sarah's father, marry two Marys?

Name: Winford Brown
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Mary Admans
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 23 Mar 1776
Event Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01609-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1736720
Reference ID:

(presumably the mother of Sarah Brown)

and also

Name: Winford Brown
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Mary Blundell
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 25 Dec 1780
Event Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01609-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1736720
Reference ID: p.13

though Winford in 1780 is said to be single.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Aug 2013 12:29

Parents of Winford Brown?

Name: Winford Brown
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 May 1747
Christening Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Winford Brown
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Thomasin
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02143-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1736720
Reference ID: item 3

Parents' marriage:

Name: Winford Brown
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Thomasin Woodward
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 25 Jun 1745
Event Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00605-2
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1751866
Reference ID:

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jane

jane Report 13 Aug 2013 16:36

WOW! thanks for all your responses, all this info is really useful and most of it I was unable to find, I am currently writing it all down and putting it all together. Thank you to all of you! So John could actually be 1776 if age rounded down in 1841 census. I am just wondering if his parents were Thomas and Ann as christening records found by Kucinta, or Robert and Elizabeth as in a tree on ancestry called ross family tree by member acr333 where spelt wrait initially, then changes to wraight for winford brown wraight 1816 son of William (brother of John wraight 1776), but I think this may be wrong and that winford brown wraight 1816 is actually john's son which would tie in with my tree and johns wife sarah 'brown' :-S

jane

jane Report 13 Aug 2013 17:42

All of this juicy info is very relevant to my tree! thanks for all your searching - you could get paid for doing this! :-D

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Aug 2013 21:51

Name: Winford Brown Wraight
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 26 Jan 1800
Christening Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Wraight
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02181-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1736720
Reference ID: item 3 p 261

Name: Thomas Wraight
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Jun 1804
Christening Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Wraight
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02181-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1736720
Reference ID: item 3 p 276


EDIT: Oops, already posted by Maddie.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Aug 2013 22:28

I think the Winford Brown Wraight who married Ellen Bland in 1858, as posted earlier by Maddie is probably the son of John Wraight c1801, as he is a bachelor on the marriage image. I think he was named for his maternal grandfather, and /or his uncle.

Winford Brown Wraight c1816 is probably the guy who married in 1843:


Marriages Mar 1843
CLINCH Edward Faversham 5 219
Gibbons Louisa Elizabeth Faversham 5 219<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Harris Ann Faversham 5 219
Huggett Richard Faversham 5 219
JEMMETT George Henry Faversham 5 219
MUNNS Sarah Faversham 5 219
WRAIGHT Winford Faversham 5 219 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Looks like he married Louisa Gibbons as 1851 has the couple living with her parents:

Address: Tanner Street, Faversham County: Kent

GIBBONS, John Head Married M 71 1780 Painter Goodnestone, Kent
GIBBONS, Sarah Wife Married F 67 1784 Nurse Throwley, Kent
WRAIGHT, Winford Son-In-Law Married M 31 1820 Bricklayers Lab
Faversham, Kent<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WRAIGHT, Louisa Daughter Married F 32 1819 Davington, Kent<<<
WRAIGHT, Eliza Grand Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar
Faversham, Kent
WRAIGHT, Sarah Grand Daughter F 5 1846
Faversham, Kent

Winford and Louisa were still living in Faversham in census 1861 ie after the Bethnal Green wedding in 1861. However I can't find that Winford and Ellen in 1861.

Address: North Lane, Ospringe, Faversham County: Kent

WRAIGHT, Winford Head Married M 45 1816 Gardener Davington, Kent
WRAIGHT, Louisa Wife Married F 43 1818 Faversham, Kent
WRAIGHT, Winford B Son M 4 1857 Faversham, Kent

In 1871 a Winford Wraight born c1837 in Walthamstow Essex, is living with an Ellen:

Address: President St, East, St Luke Middlesex County: London, Middlesex

WRAIGHT, Winford Head M 34 1837 Essex Walthamstow
WRAIGHT, Ellen Wife F 33 1838 Hertfordshire
WRAIGHT, Winford Son M 6 1865 Middlesex
WRAIGHT, Ellen Daughter F 3 1868 Middlesex
WRAIGHT, Minnie Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex

Edit: The Essex location for Winford's birth would tie in with the location of John Wraight c1801, wife Lucy and family in the 1861 census posted previously by Maddie.