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Dudfield, Dutfield or Duffield???

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happydaze Report 27 Aug 2013 16:57

I am very confused by this family -
I have a birth certificate for:
Brenda Ann 13/3/1948 Bermondsey Father Herbert James Mace Mother Mary Caroline Mace formerly DUFFIELD

I also have the marriage cert for Caroline and Herbert 13/12/1941:
Herbert James Mace 20 Bachelor Soldier Fathers Name Herbert Mace
Mary Caroline DUTFIELD 24 Spinster Packer Fathers Name William Henry DUTFIELD.

Knowing that information I've searched for records and really struggled to find anything so went back to the box........

Going through papers I found some funeral cards for Richard DUDFIELD died 21/6/1943..... Spoke with my aunt and she said yes Richard was Mary's brother.....

So looked, found and ordered birth certs for Richard DUDFIELD and Mary Caroline DUDFIELD, I also ordered Richards Death cert. Well they arrived today to say i'm confused is an understatement......

They are definitely related as have same mother and father Julia Emily DUDFIELD formerly BIGSBY and William Edward DUDFIELD - I can find a birth and marriage for Julia to William can't find a birth for William.......

But I'm confused that on Richard's death cert the informant was his sister M.HARRIS!

Have I cross matched wrong families? I thought that this might be where the dyslexia stemmed from....

Some advice would be appreciated. Thank you


:-S :-S


KathleenBell Report 27 Aug 2013 17:10

I think I am a bit too confused by all of this but I looked for a marriage of an M. Dudfield to a Mr. Harris and found this one:-

Name: DUDFIELD, Minnie A
Registration district: St. Olave Bermondsey
County: London
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Harris
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 482

Name: HARRIS, John
Registration district: St. Olave Southwark
County: London
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Dudfield
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 482

Could Minnie be Richard's sister?

Kath. x


happydaze Report 27 Aug 2013 17:20

I did see this one but my Aunt hasn't mentioned another sister........

She'd be a lot older - I'll have to find her birth and order her certificate I guess to rule her in or out.......

Thanks Kath.


KathleenBell Report 27 Aug 2013 17:24

This looks like Minnie in the 1911 census with parents and siblings:-

1911 census transcription details for: 83 Wolseley Buildings Bermondsey

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN1911 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED42 SN58
Reg. District: St Olave (Bermondsey)
Sub District: Bermondsey
Parish: Bermondsey
Enum. District: 42
Address: 83 Wolseley Buildings Bermondsey
County: London

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

DUDFIELD, William Head Married M 33 1878 General Labourer Bermondsey
DUDFIELD, Julia Wife Married 12 years F 31 1880 Rotherhithe Bermondsey
DUDFIELD, Minnie Daughter F 14 1897 Bermondsey<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
DUDFIELD, Maggie Daughter F 12 1899 School Bermondsey
DUDFIELD, Willie Son M 10 1901 School Bermondsey
DUDFIELD, Julia Daughter F 8 1903 School Bermondsey
DUDFIELD, Johnnie Son M 5 1906 School Bermondsey
DUDFIELD, Jimmie Son M 3 1908 Bermondsey

EDIT - Apparently Minnie could be a pet name for Mary.

Kath. x


KathleenBell Report 27 Aug 2013 17:28

Where did you find the birth for Mary Caroline Dudfield?

I've looked and I can't find that birth.

Kath. x


happydaze Report 27 Aug 2013 17:50

Hi Kath,

She's Caroline Mary 26/05/1917 Father William Dudfield Mother J E Dudfield formerly Bigsby......on her birth cert that I have

She was known as Mary and according to her marriage cert she is Mary Caroline DUTFIELD - father William Henry DUTFIELD 13/12/1941

Then on Brenda Ann 13/03/1948 birth cert she is Mary Caroline Mace formerly DUFFIELD......

I've just found a birth for George E 1912 Apr-May-Jun Mothers maiden name Bigsby and possibly the following siblings

1903 Julia Emily
1908 Thomas James
1915 Margaret Mary

So so so confused

Thank you your help much appreciated

Chris x