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Hansfords from Devon moved to Bristol

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Sue

Sue Report 1 Sep 2013 14:04

Hello, can anyone help please.

I have been having a huge problem finding the ancestors of my 2 x great grandmother Elizabeth Hansford who I originally thought was descended from the ‘Dorset’ Hansfords.

Although she was born in Bristol (about 1830 and her younger brother James in Bath about 1835) their parents, also James and Elizabeth, were recorded in the 1851 Bristol census as being born in Devon. It took a long time to find this as their surname was transcribed as 'Ansford' and in the 1841 Bristol census as 'Hansar'! But they were definitely originally from Devon.

By the 1861 Bristol census my 2 x great grandmother Elizabeth Hansford was married to Edward Thompson and a widowed James Hansford was living with them as a lodger. I am therefore reasonably certain he was Elizabeth’s father especially as his birth county was shown as Devon. This time it also showed the place as 'Dulmistock' but I think this could be 'Culmstock'.

The only parish record I have found that may be linked to them is the possible baptism of Elizabeth in Bath:

Church, Widcombe-St Thomas a Becket, Bath
Baptism Date, 04 Nov 1832
Forename, Elizabeth
Sex, F
Father Forename, James
Mother Forename, Elizabeth
Father Surname, HANSFORD
Abode, Holloway
Father Occupation, Labourer

I have also been unable to find Elizabeth’s brother James in any census after 1851.

If anyone can offer any help or advice I would be very grateful as I've been having no luck with the parish records online with when or where James and Elizabeth married or James’ baptism records in Devon. (I can’t believe I’m the only person looking for this branch of Devon Hansfords!)

Kind regards
Sue

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 14:18

possible marriage for James?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about James Hansford
Name: James Hansford
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1878
Registration District: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 897
Records on Page:
Name
Thomas Cockrem
Sarah Asway
James Hansford
Elizabeth Ann Nowell

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 14:22

Maybe?

1861 England Census about James Hansford
Name: James Hansford
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Hansford
Gender: Male
Where born: Minsgrone, Somerset, England
[Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England]
Civil Parish: Great Elm
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Frome
Sub-registration District: Kilmersdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 34
Piece: 1657
Folio: 80
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hansford 27
Emily Hansford 27
Eliza Ann Hansford 6
Elizabeth Hansford 4
Emma Hansford 2


Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%)
Hansford James Stoke Damerel 5b 599
Luckham Thomas Stoke Damerel 5b 599
Pike Emily Stoke Damerel 5b 599
Seadgwell Grace Stoke Damerel 5b 599

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 14:27

Just in case it is correct:-

1871 England Census about James Hansford
Name: James Hansford
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Hansford
Gender: Male
Where born: Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Buckland Denham
Town: Buckland Denham
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration District: Frome
Sub-registration District: Kilmersdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household Schedule Number: 3
Piece: 2437
Folio: 27
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hansford 38
Emily Hansford 38
Emma Hansford 10
Daniel Hansford 8
Emily Hansford 6
James L Hansford 4
Mary Ann Hansford 9 Months
Silas Lllett 20

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2013 14:29

NO!

ancestry links this 1851 census to above James:-

1851 England Census about James Hansford
Name: James Hansford
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Ruth Hansford
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Charlton Musgrove, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Charlton Musgrove
Ecclesiastical parish: Barrow
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Wincanton
Sub-registration District: Castle Cary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 74
Piece: 1931
Folio: 476
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Ruth Hansford 60
Daniel Hansford 34
James Hansford 18
George Hansford 15
Sarah Hansford 11

.......................so doesn't look to be your man,sorry!

Sue

Sue Report 1 Sep 2013 14:30

Thank you both, yes could be possible, although the place of birth Charlton Musgrove in the 1861 census doesn't fit with Bath in the earlier Bristol censuses.

Sue

Sue Report 1 Sep 2013 14:37

Yes I agree, it's probably not James!

It's really frustrating not being able to find the Devon connection for James & Elizabeth!