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Looks like we're out of luck with a census for Wyola according to this site

http://www.roadsidethoughts.com/mt/wyola-census.htm

Vera

Hi Vera. Mrs Ellen Wilcocks was the next passenger to Wm Calvert on the list, there is a gap between passengers on the list so scroll down to bottom of page. It states he was a Clerk. There is another William Calvert travelling to Philadelphia leaving the following month he's down as a Gent. I really don't think we are going to find him unless he is seen in a census in Wyola or in that area. I do appreciate you helping me. Regards John

Still no luck John with finding Wm Calvert on passenger list with Lemuel in 1901. Please give me the name of the passenger recorded next to him. Not sure what record you are looking at but hoping there maybe some clues as to who he is.

Vera

Amongst the collections at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
is the US 1900 census:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1325221
You can search it and view images for free.

From 1900 thru 1940, the US census covered all 50 states or territories that would become these states, plus DC.

Hi Vera. Lemuel Hampson came from Sheffield Yorkshire, so maybe that's how he knew Mr Calvert. If you can find where Mr Calvert is crossed out on the passenger list of the Rhynland in 1900 you will see its WM Calvert

Many thanks Sylvain, I will try doing what you suggested. I will get there in the end. Pleased to hear that there people older than me oing it, hope for me yet but with the help of people like you , it makes this thread business easier

Thanks Sylvia. Have copied info for future use.

Vera

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/tips_board/thread/1331699

John (and Vera)


to change the heading on this thread

look at your opening post

Do you see Edit / Delete on the line where your name and date are?

Click on EDIT

Now the screen will show your Opening Post AND the Header

Just change the Header to include USA, or Montana / Wyoming

Then click Submit



Be very careful to click on EDIT, not on Delete, or you will lose the whole thread.



There is a very good reason why GR says that not more than one thread should be started on any one person or family ....................... and why helpers ask that people stick to that


Posting more than one thread, or asking the same question over and over again, just results in helpers wasting time finding information that has already been found ................. ie, duplicating research already carried out.

Helpers are only members like yourself, using their own subscriptions in other sites to find information.



BTW .................. you are still quite a youngster at 76, there are lots of members much older than you, and even more around your age or only slightly younger.

John not able to see Wm Calvert on same ship as Lemuel in 1901.

There is a William Calvert travelling to and fro and on one occasion with sister Mary Legard. That William lives with sister Mary and her husband Phillip and can be seen with them on the census 1900-1920. He is married although not with wife and works as a Pipe Inspector. So not sure that this is *Mr Calvert in Wyola*. The family originate from the Yorkshire area.

Vera

I've seen your Montana thread John. So that's good and there is a link to this one. I like answering the queries but also not too hot on the technical aspects of it all.

Just had a look at William Calvert. There is one born in England who seems to have hopped over the Atlantic on many occasions (4) His occupation varies but dob and marital status remains. Will delve in a bit more. He does not seem to have an occupation which would easily finance the numerous trips (mechanic, machinist etc.)

Will see what I can turn up and look again at the passenger list with Lemuel aboard.

Vera

Hi Vera. I'm 76 now so all this modern technology is frustrating at times. my grandchildren are a wiz and help me at times if I can't father things out. I will try and go on to the Genealogy chat and see what I can find out

Sorry about that John. I gather you can change your existing header ie this one but not quite sure how. Another thread probably just complicates things. I am at least learning something about America. I read a blog about Wyola, Big Horn County and it quite emphatically said that do not mix it up with Big Horn County which I gather runs on in to Wyoming.

Try going into this thread again and see if you can edit it to hilghlight USA or go onto Genealogy Chat and ask for advice.

Going to take another look at that Wiliam Calvert

Vera

Hi Vera. I tried heading Montana in hope that someone in America would pick it up and very quickly put in my place by people in this country for not saying please and that I had already had a tread about Mr Calvert, so can 't win.Well I will just have to hope that someone in America can help. Many thanks for your help.If I hear anything out him I will contact you

Hi Vera. Yes I am also interested as to who he is, he must have come over to recruit and something to do with refining of silver. When I looked on the passenger list and saw where Mr Calvert was crossed out and went back and another look and he's down as Wm Calvert so he is William Calvert. Having looked at the net I found Wyola Wyoming so perhaps it is on the border.

I have access to all the census on Ancestry but unfortunately I can't find out where Wyola is in the Census. I did find another 0005 in 1820 but no Calvert there. Perhaps John if you change your header to Montana or indicate USA, our Genes friends in the States may be able to help. I am getting so curious now, I want to know who Mr Calvert is!

I did wonder as there was no initial on the passenger list, that perhaps he was some sort of agent employing people to work in the mines. Just a thought.

Vera

Many thanks Vera. For some reason Ancestry has changed its format, it seems that I will have to upgrade to World wide to see most of the USA census, years ago when I first started on Ancestry I could get them, but just for a couple of look ups its seems more money and I am unable to get it on pay as you go

Hello John

I did find that 2nd page. Much clearer. It appears, from the crossed out page, that Lemuel moved into another class of cabin.

Wyola had a very small population back in the day and does not seem to stand alone prior to 1940 in the census records. Even the USA census advice site does not seem to include it. I

I'm sure your Mr Calvert is there somewhere if only we could find Wyola listed.

Vera

Hi Vera2010. I looked up the passenger list of the Rhynland heading for Philadelphia and saw the name of a William Calvert crossed out, having found Lemuel Wiliam Hampson on the same ship, his name was crossed out when I originally looked it up but been unable to find that page since, however I have seen another page of the manifest where it looks like he had been put into another cabin so possibly William Calvert had also been moved cabins. I do believe now that Mr Calvert stated by Lemuel Hampson as being a friend of Wyola is this person travelling on the Rhynland

Looking at info of Wyola, it mentions Wyoming and also Montana. Is there a 1900 census for these states. We wondered if this Mr Calvert could have come over to England to Sheffield to visit the Steel works and met Lemuel. We have a photo of Lemuel taken in a studio in Philadelphia also have one of him dressed similar to a cowboy holding a rifle as though living in the Montana or Wyoming areas.. If we could find out more about this Mr Calvert it would give us some idea as to why Lemuel was over there. Pity the manifest didn't, give a first or initial to his surname.