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Sheil

Sheil Report 22 Sep 2013 17:06

I am looking for the death of a relative of mine. Her name is Mary Jane Lee born 1865, possbly last known address Haslemere or near by. I know she was still alive in 1938.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 22 Sep 2013 17:24

Possible death:


Name:Mary J Lee
Birth Date:abt 1865
Date of Registration:Jun 1947
Age at Death:82
Registration District:Surrey North Western
Inferred County:Surrey
Volume:5g
Page:592

Sheil

Sheil Report 22 Sep 2013 18:30

Thanks Lynne from up North, I'll check it out. Thanks again.

Sheil

Sheil Report 1 Oct 2013 14:35

Hi Lynne, I've checked it out got the death cert but no not my relative.
:-|

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Oct 2013 15:35

Where was she born? And was it definitely in 1865?

What surname did she use in 1938?

Have you looked for her death yourself using freebmd?

Sheil

Sheil Report 2 Oct 2013 16:09

Hi Reggie, I have searched everywhere. My great Grandmother was born in Poplar London 1865, married twice, the 2nd time to a William Lee & widowed in 1930 in Southampton. . Last address was in Portsmouth in 1938, where I believe she lived with her son Frederick Lee. No one has heard or seen anything of her since, No D.O.D. No cemetry records for portsmouth. I have dawn a complete blank. :-( :-(

Gee

Gee Report 2 Oct 2013 16:40

I'm guessing this is her first marriage


Marriages Sep 1897
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HALL Mary Jane Portsea 2b 1070
UDALL Arthur Joseph Portsea 2b 1070



Do you have her full DOB, father and mother' including her maiden name?

Sheil

Sheil Report 2 Oct 2013 16:56

Hi Gins, No her 1st marriage was to John Butlin. Her maiden name was ubsdell, We have ancestry tree but no-one knows what happened to her after 1938.

Gee

Gee Report 2 Oct 2013 16:59

Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%)
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Lee William Portsmouth 2b 792
Stevens George Thomas Portsmouth 2b 792
U*LL Mary Jane Portsmouth 2b 792


Was this her marriage to William Lee, if so, she used her maiden name, which is how I got to the marriage I posted?

Parents please and full DOB if you have it

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Oct 2013 17:00

It's strange that she married her second husband still using her maiden name and not her first married name.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Oct 2013 17:02

Could this be her death (the age is about right):-

Name: LEE, Mary J
Registration district: Andover
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1946
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 81
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 47

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Oct 2013 17:09

Is this Mary Jane in the 1911 census? :-

1911 census transcription details for: 38 Clifford Street

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN5972 RG78PN273B RD99 SD1 ED38 SN139
Reg. District: Southampton
Sub District: Southampton Eastern
Parish: St Mary
Enum. District: 38

Address: 38 Clifford Street
County: Hampshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

LEE, Mary Head Married F 43 1868 London
BUTLIN, Frederick Son Single M 23 1888 Steward Portsmouth Hants

It looks like her son Frederick was actually Frederick Butlin and not Frederick Lee.

Kath. x

Sheil

Sheil Report 2 Oct 2013 17:09

Yes , she married william in 1907,in the name of Ubsdell, I have the marriage cert. widowed in 1930. Her 1st marriage was to Frederick John Butlin in 1884.

Gee

Gee Report 2 Oct 2013 17:12

Hi Sheil

Please could you answer the above questions, it might help find her

Cheers

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Oct 2013 17:15

I'd say the death in 1946 in Hampshire is a pretty good bet.

Kath. x

Gee

Gee Report 2 Oct 2013 17:15


1901 England Census

Name:Mary J Butlin

Age:35

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:Frederick J Butlin <<<<<<<<<<<not John?

Gender:Female

Where born:
Poplar, London, England

Civil Parish:Portsmouth

Ecclesiastical parish:St Stephens

Town:Portsmouth

County/Island:Hampshire
Registration District:
Portsmouth

Sub-registration District:
North End and Buckland


Frederick J Butlin 36
Mary J Butlin 35
Mary E Butlin 15
Frederick W Butlin 14
Bertram G Butlin 11
Alfred J Butlin 10
Ernest G Butlin 9


KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Oct 2013 17:17

This looks like Mary Jane with her grandparents in the 1871 census:-

1871 census transcription details for: Green Row, Portsmouth

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 1135
Folio: 60
Page: 34
Reg. District: Portsea Island
Sub District: Portsmouth Town
Parish: Portsmouth
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Portsmouth

Address: Green Row, Portsmouth
County: Hampshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

UBSDELL, Richard H C Head M 59 1812 Hampshire
UBSDELL, Mary A Wife F 57 1814 Kent
UBSDELL, William G Son M 34 1837 Hampshire
UBSDELL, Thomas Son M 32 1839 Hampshire
UBSDELL, Mary J Granddaughter F 6 1865 Middlesex<<<<<<<<<<
YATES, Albert Servant M 16 1855 Hampshire
FORMAN, Sarah Servant F 20 1851 Hampshire

Kath. x

Sheil

Sheil Report 2 Oct 2013 17:22

Yes all correct Kath, But don't know about andover, but I will check it out, I did see that one but thinking maybe get the DC if no one else in my family did. But thanks for your help, My great Grandmother Mary Jane is such a mystery.

Gee

Gee Report 2 Oct 2013 17:23

This is odd???


1881 England Census

Name:
Frederick John Butler
[Frederick John Butlin]

Age:15

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866

Relationship to Head:Step Son

Mother:Eliza Caroline Hubsdell


Where born:Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Portsea

County/Island:Hampshire

Street Address:52 Emanuel Street

Occupation:
Trade (Errand) Boy HMD YD

Registration District:Portsea Island

Sub-registration District:Kingston

ED, institution, or vessel:16

Piece:1141
Folio:141
Page Number:57


James Edward Hubsdell 46
Eliza Caroline Hubsdell 39
Walter Clark Hubsdell 21
John Edward Hubsdell 15
Henry Hubsdell 13
Edith Louisa Hubsdell 9
Albert Hubsdell 7
Frederick John Butler 15


Looking at a death for him, 1944 seems to be a match yet Mary Jane married again in 1907!!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Oct 2013 17:27

Perhaps Frederick John Butler (or Butlin) was a cousin of Mary Jane Ubsdell. Cousins often married.

Kath. x