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William T Roe and Esther Roe

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Stephen

Stephen Report 25 Sep 2013 15:48

I know that Esther Roe married her cousin William and I know Esther's connection with my family, but I don't know about William b1869. They both went to America in 1924. any information would be helpful.

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 16:00

Went to America.......from where?

When did they marry?

Have you thought of getting the marriage cert?

You should be able to trace William if you know for certain that he was Esther's cousin...............their fathers must have been brothers, so that's the link.

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 16:01

For LOCATION

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Roe Esther Allen Northampton 3b 170
Roe William Thomas Northampton 3b 170

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 16:03

1901 census

Person: ROE, Esther A Address: 95, Hunter Street, Northampton Priory Of St Andrew

ROE, William S Head Married M 32 1869 Boot Machinist
London VIEW
ROE, Esther A Wife Married F 33 1868
Northampton VIEW
ROE, Burnham T A Son M 8 1893
Northampton

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 16:05

1891 census


Person: ROE, William T Address: 63, Colwyn Road, Northampton

ROE, Richard Head Married M 65 1826 Living On Own Means
Woodford, Northamptonshire VIEW
ROE, Ann Wife Married F 63 1828
Grendon, Northamptonshire VIEW
ROE, Esther Daughter Single F 23 1868 Milliner
Northampton VIEW
ROE, William T Nephew Single M 22 1869 Boot Machine Operator
London

Gins

Gins Report 25 Sep 2013 16:09

Is this the couple?



1920 United States Federal Census


Name:William T Roe <<Specialist machinist. I think it says 'shoe factory'

Age:51

Birth Year:abt 1869

Birthplace:England

Home in 1920:Brockton Ward 7, Plymouth, Massachusetts

Race:White

Gender:Male

Immigration Year:1914

Relation to Head of House:Head

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Esther Roe

Father's Birthplace:England

Mother's Birthplace:England

Home owned:Rent
Able to read:Yes
Able to Write:Yes
:


Name


William T Roe 51
Esther Roe 51
Burnham Roe 27
Victor R Roe 15
Edith J Roe 27


Gins

Gins Report 25 Sep 2013 16:12

He went earlier than you thought



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:William T Roe

Gender:Male

Age:45

Birth Date:abt 1869

Departure Date:31 Oct 1914

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:New York, USA

Ship Name:
Orduna


Also with: Esther, Bernhard and Victor

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 16:12

Identifying William pre-1891 is proving tricky..........get the marriage cert for factual info

Having said the fathers must be brothers, I must add that it's possible that William was the illegitimate son of a sister of Richard

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 16:20

1841 census


Person: ROE, Richd Address: Chapel Place, St Giles, Northampton

ROE, John M 30 1811 Northamptonshire VIEW
ROE, Dinah F 30 1811 Northamptonshire VIEW
ROE, Harriott F 11 1830 Northamptonshire VIEW
ROE, Saml M 20 1821 Northamptonshire VIEW
CHENEY, Matilda F 25 1816 Northamptonshire VIEW
ROE, Richd M 15 1826 Northamptonshire

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 25 Sep 2013 16:24

Could this be William in the 1881 census:-

1881 census transcription details for: Cogenhoe Village, Cogenhoe

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 1540
Folio: 81
Page: 10
Reg. District: Hardingstone
Sub District: Brafield
Parish: Cogenhoe
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Cogenhoe Village, Cogenhoe
County: Northamptonshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

ROE, John Head Married M 38 1843 Bootmaker
Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire
ROE, Lucy Wife Married F 30 1851
Denton, Northamptonshire
ROE, William Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Cogenhoe, Northamptonshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ROE, Florance Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Cogenhoe, Northamptonshire
ROE, Horace Son Single M 2 1879
Cogenhoe, Northamptonshire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 25 Sep 2013 16:26

Although it's possible that William's birth was not registered this is a possibility if the name was mis-spelt:-


Name: ROWE, William Thomas
Registration district: Brixworth
County: Northamptonshire
Year of registration: 1871
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 3B
Page no: 118

Kath. x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Sep 2013 16:35

Duplicate post:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1331986

Just use one thread, Stephen, to save people doing the research twice.

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Sep 2013 16:53

In both 1891 and 1901, William says he was born in LONDON

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 25 Sep 2013 16:54

I think I've found William T's father as William Allen Roe born c1834 Woodford, Northants, son of Thomas and Esther Roe (nee Allen),

Ancestry mistranscribe William A as William S on the 1871 census.

Details on the other, duplicate thread.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 25 Sep 2013 17:35

1930 US Census:

Name:Esther Roe
Gender:Female
Birth Year:abt 1868
Birthplace:England
Race:White
Home in 1930:Brockton, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Map of Home:View Map
Marital Status:Married
Immigration Year: 1914
Relation to Head of House:Wife
Spouse's Name: William Roe
Father's Birthplace:England
Mother's Birthplace:England
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
View Image
Neighbors:View others on page
Household Members:Name Age
William Roe 61
Esther Roe 62
Burnham Roe 37

Stephen

Stephen Report 26 Sep 2013 11:42

Thanks for all the information. Sorry I have duplicated this thread, I got the date of the move to America wrong and I though I had deleted this one.
I think William Allen Roe was his father, but I don't know who his mother was and I don't understand the connection with London.
There are also some Roes I haven't heard of before - I must look into those :-)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Sep 2013 13:08

His mother was Mary Sivyer, born Wadhurst, Sussex, who William Allen Roe married in 1864 in Shoreditch (see the other thread).

They had their first few children, including William Thomas, in the London area, before moving to Leicestershire, where the remainder of their children were born, and where William Allen Roe died aged 44 (see other thread)

One of their sons, Frederick, had the second name Sivyer, and at least two of their daughters had the second name Allen (see other thread).