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George was a music copyist in London,he may have married a Jane. He had children George 1834, Julia 1838, Charles1836, Henry 1840'

He married an Elizabeth, who cannot be the mother as she was born in 1824.

The 1841 census does not show a mother/wife

I believe he died in 1870

Can anyone help with info or advice

Have you got the birth certificate of Henry, for information about his Mother?

What part of London did this happen in?

Thank-you

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This one?
Henry William Baird
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1840
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 4
Page: 1227

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Julia Jessie Baird
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Jun 1837
Father's Name: George Baird Musician
Mother's Name: Jane Baird
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Grawby Street?

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Charles Baird
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Jun 1837
Father's Name: George Baird
Mother's Name: Jane Baird
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Do you know where George(1834) was born as the 1841 has him as not local?

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All 3 older children baptised at same time:
George Baird
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Jun 1837
Father's Name: George Baird
Mother's Name: Jane Baird
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

When and where do you think he married Elizabeth ?

1851 just for info

Name: George Baird
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Baird
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Clement, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in the Fields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration District: St Martin In The Fields
Sub-registration District: Long Acre
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 137
Piece: 1482
Folio: 372
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
George Baird 40
Elizabeth Baird 27
Eleander Seth 21 - boarder
George Baird 16
Charles Baird 14
Mary A Baird 12
Henry Baird 10
William Baird 5


Class: HO107; Piece: 1482; Folio: 372; Page: 36; GSU roll: 87807.

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Jane Biard (of East Street)
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1843
Burial Date: 7 May 1843
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Register

Father George is a copyist and they are at Grawby Street:

William George Baird
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 2 Sep 1845 (birth Aug 22 written in margin)
Father's Name: James Baird
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Baird
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

This should give Elizabeth's maiden name:
Births Sep 1845
Baird William George Lambeth 4 320

What about this marriage??


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Brede
Name: George Brede
Spouse Name: Jane Raggett
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Feb 1833
Parish: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Register


Edit, it definitely says Brede on original image and also states that George was a widow.......so maybe not them??

The death Patchem found?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Jane Beaird
Name: Jane Beaird
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1843
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 4
Page: 183


It should name who registered the death.

Thank you for going to so much trouble I am very grateful and it was extremely helpful

Think this is Mary Ann's marriage,


Name: Gilbert Hugh Orme
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Baird
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Nov 1858
Parish: Newington St Mary
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Gilbert Orme
Spouse Father Name: George Thomas Baird >> occupation, musician
Register Type: Parish Register

On the above marriage was a witness, Clara R V Baird, the other witness was George Baird.....looks like their marriage,



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1856 (>99%)
BAIRD George St Martin in the F 1a 572 <<<<<<<<<
BARNES Thomas William St Martin in the F 1a 572
CARR Clara Rebecca Victoria St Martin in the F 1a 572 <<<<<<<
CRAWFORD Eliza Ann St Martin in the F 1a 572
Curtis Sarah St Geo Hanover Sq 1a 572
PACKER William Frederick St Martin in the f 1a 572


The middle name for their father interested me.

I can't find Mary Ann Baird on the 1841 census, I wonder if she was Elizabeth's daughter?

I wonder about this birth?


Name: Marianne Baird
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1838
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 4
Page: 263

Just ruling out the Brede Raggett marriage,

1851,

Name: George Brede
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Brede
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Borough, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Upper Chelsea Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration District: Chelsea
Sub-registration District: Chelsea North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 298
Piece: 1474
Folio: 485
Page Number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
George Brede 43
Jane Brede 41
William Raggett 9 >>> nephew

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