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Dennis Albert Cooke - Stuck again :-(

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Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Oct 2013 21:25

Stuck again on the other side of the family now.
Looking for parents/grandparents/siblings of Dennis Albert Cooke.

I know that he was born 15/01/1927 in Devizes, Wiltshire
Married Davina Leslie/Lesley Hunter in Salisbury in 1961
Died March 1972

They had 4 children, Michelle Robert Sandra & Andrea.
I cannot seem to find any information about him apart from his date of birth and date of death.
My nan (Davina) cannot remember anything about him sadly so i thought it would be nice to find out for her.

Any help appreciated, Thanks

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Oct 2013 21:31

If he knew his father, the details will be on the marriage cert

And please remove that address...................

You need to look at freebmd.............his birth is on there.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

..........you can use the info to find the marriage of his parents.........................and the names of siblings (if any)

For absolute certainty........buy the birth cert

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Oct 2013 21:32

???


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Dennis A Cooke
Name: Dennis A Cooke
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1927
Registration District: Salisbury
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 244

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Oct 2013 21:33

According to his birth record his mother's maiden name was Jones.

If his parents married in Wiltshire then this is the only likely marriage I can see:-


Name: COOKE, William T
Registration district: Wilton
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Jones
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 567

Name: JONES, Catherine E E
Registration district: Wilton
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Cooke
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 567

Kath. x

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Oct 2013 21:34

there's a death for him in Devizes, Wiltshire, but can't see a birth. Are you sure he was born there?

You need to buy his marriage cert. which will give you his father's name and occupation and his birth certificate will give you his mother's name, then you can look with more certainty at possible marriages for his parents. When you find that, their marriage cert. will give you both grandfather's names which help you go back even further. Without proof, all your findings will be just speculation.

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Oct 2013 21:38

The birth is on freebmd, Catherine..........I deliberately didn't post it....................so that Samantha could have the 'buzz' of finding it for herself.

Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Oct 2013 21:44

Lol ok people thanks for all of your information, my nan said that he was born in Devizes but not being horrible to her I can't be sure about any of the information that she gives me.
Address removed.
Thank you also Kath, any information is currently putting me half a step forward than I am now so very much appreciated x

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Oct 2013 21:46

"If" it turns out to be correct, then this would fit with Kathleen's marriage:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Catherine Ellen E Jones
Name: Catherine Ellen E Jones
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889
Registration District: Wilton
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 199
...........................

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Catherine Ellen Elizabeth Jones
Name: Catherine Ellen Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Apr 1889
Christening Place: Wilton, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name: James Joseph William Jones
Mother's Name: Sarah Jane
.....................................................

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Catherine Ellen E Cooke
Name: Catherine Ellen E Cooke
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1889
Date of Registration: Sep 1974
Age at Death: 85
Registration District: Salisbury
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 23
Page: 1825

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Oct 2013 21:56

Reggie,
When I said I couldn't find a birth I meant in Devices, Wiltshire as Samantha posted on her thread. Hopefully by buying a few certs she will be able to proove that the info found is what she is looking for. :-)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 18 Oct 2013 21:59

If the christening record found above is correct then this is Catherine's father's death:-

Name: JONES, James Joseph W
Registration district: Wilton
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1897
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 52
Volume no: 5A
Page no: 108

Kath. x

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Oct 2013 22:00

ancestry also links this with the marriage:-

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about William T Cooke
Name: William T Cooke
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Mar 1961
Age at Death: 72
Registration District: Salisbury
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 7c
Page: 626
............................................

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about William Thomas Cooke
Name: William Thomas Cooke
Probate Date: 9 Mar 1961
Death Date: 7 Jan 1961
Death Place: Salisbury
Registry: Winchester, England
Address: 39 The Avenue, Wilton
To:- Catherine Ellen Elizabeth Cooke (widow)
Effects:- £425 0d 8s

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Oct 2013 22:21

Looking for siblings, the following are all possible as they have correct name and mmn:-

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Cooke Ronald G H Jones Wilton 5a 318
Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Cooke Valerie C Jones Wilton 5a 250
Births Dec 1936 (>99%)
COOKE Mavis A Jones Andover 2c 375

Do you have any idea of Dennis's brothers or sisters.

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Oct 2013 22:26

Wilton, Salisbury and Andover are all military bases, so I'm wondering if William Thomas Cooke, Dennis's father was in the army?
Marriage cert. will of course confirm.


If, that is the case then could be him in 1911:-

1911 England Census about William Thomas Cooke
Name: William Thomas Cooke
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Deptford London, Kent, England
County/Island: Military
Country: England
Military Unit: 2/the Kings Regt
Registration District Number: 641
ED, institution, or vessel: India
Piece: 34989

Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Oct 2013 22:40

I have no idea about siblings, however i have a relative called Valerie who i call Aunt Valerie, working out from the possible DOB of her above that would make her 82 now, she is still alive... I think she may be my mums Aunt considering i call her Aunt??

I also just found this information from a bit of searching about which indicates different siblings but matches with the birth place on the 1911 census above:

Fathers Name: Esau/Esan Cooke 1853-1925
Mothers Name: Sarah Maria Cooke nee Rowland 1862-1920
William Thomas Cooke Born 3rd June 1888 in Deptford, London
Baptised at Deptford, London 13th March 1892
Also baptised was Alice Louise born Oct 23rd 1879
and Isaac born July 27th 1891
Residence 69 Griffin Street
Fathers profession - Baker

Wasnt sure how close this information was especially now that you have 3 different siblings although the place is correct, i suppose it is possible they had 6 children

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Oct 2013 15:41

1911 England Census Transcription
Address:3 ST ANTHONY'S ROAD BOURNEMOUTH
Parish:BOURNEMOUTH
County:Hampshire
Country:ENGLAND
Registration District:CHRISTCHURCH
Registration District Number:95
Registration Sub-District: Bournemouth
SubDistrict Number:2
Enumeration District:10
Census Reference:RG14PN5841 RG78PN267 RD95 SD2 ED10 SN75

ALFRED HUTCHINS 1846 65 BRISTOL GLOST ENGLAND HEAD M Private Means
ALICE MAUDE HUTCHINS 1868 43 LONDON ENGLAND WIFE M
ALFRED JOHN AVALON HUTCHINS 1898 13 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES SON School
ETHEL MAUDE HUTCHINS 1899 12 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES DAUGHTER School
DOUGLAS MAY HUTCHINS 1905 6 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES SON School
VIOLET ALICE HUTCHINS 1907 4 CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES DAUGHTER
KATHERINE ELLEN ELIZABETH JONES 1887 24 WILTON WILTS ENGLAND SERVANT House Parlour Maid
CLARA PARSONS 1866 45 STALBRIDGE DORSET ENGLAND SERVANT Cook, House Maid
WINIFRED FLORENCE MABEL HARRISON 1885 26 HALE WILTS ENGLAND SERVANT Nurse


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Address:8 SOUTH ST WILTON
Parish:WILTON
County:Wiltshire
Country:ENGLAND
Registration District:WILTON
Registration District Number:254
Registration Sub-District: Wilton
SubDistrict Number:1
Enumeration District:4
Census Reference:RG14PN12122 RG78PN680 RD254 SD1 ED4 SN52

GEORGE SHERGOLD 1861 50 WILTS WILTON HEAD M Foreman Platelayer
SARAH SHERGOLD 1860 51 WILTS BROADCHALKE WIFE M
GEORGE JONES 1887 24 VALETTA MALTA STEPSON S Gardeners Labourer (Domestic)
GERTRUDE JONES 1895 16 WILTS WILTON STEPDAUGHTER S
AMY JONES 1893 18 WILTS WILTON STEPDAUGHTER S
DAISY SHERGOLD 1900 11 WILTS WILTON DAUGHTER School
VIOLET SHERGOLD 1905 6 WILTS WILTON DAUGHTER School
FRANK LAWRENCE 1880 31 WILTS WILTON BOARDER S Gardeners Labourer (Domestic)

[The mosern spelling is Broad Chalke - it's 9km SW of Wilton]


1901 England Census Transcription
Street:SOUTH STREET
Parish:WILTON
County:Wiltshire
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:WILTON
Enumeration District:4
Parliamentary Borough:THE SOUTHERN OR WILTON
Registration District:WILTON
Registration Sub-District: Wilton
Enumeration District:4
Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:1958 Folio:25 Page:3

GEORGE SHERGOLD 1861 40 Wilton, Wilts HEAD M Slatelayer, S.W. Railway
SARAH J SHERGOLD 1860 41 Broad Chalk, Wilts WIFE M Shopkeeper (Sweets)
GEORGE B JONES 1887 14 Malta STEP SON S Stable Boy (Domestic)
MATILDA SHERGOLD 1888 13 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER S Carpet Factory
KATE SHERGOLD 1889 12 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER S
KATE JONES 1889 12 Wilton, Wilts STEP DAUGHTER
JOSEPH B SHERGOLD 1891 10 Wilton, Wilts SON
BESSIE SHERGOLD 1892 9 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER
AMY O JONES 1893 8 Wilton, Wilts STEP DAUGHTER
GERTRUDE L JONES 1895 6 Wilton, Wilts STEP DAUGHTER
DAISY H SHERGOLD 1900 1 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER
CHARLES WEST 1841 60 Wilton, Wilts BOARDER


1891 England Census Transcription
Street:SOUTH STREET
Parish:WILTON
Town:WILTON
City:WILTON
County:Wiltshire
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:WILTON
Parliamentary Borough:SOUTH WILTSHIRE
Registration District:WILTON
Registration Sub-District 1 Wilton
Enumeration District:4
Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:1622 Folio:54 Page:9

JAMES J W JONES 1850 41 Dublin, Ireland HEAD M Army Pensioner
SARAH J JONES 1860 31 Broad Chalk, Wilts WIFE M
GEORGE B JONES 1887 4 Malta SON Scholar
KATHERINE E JONES 1889 2 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER
KATHERINE EMM 1811 80 Dunhead, Wilts GRANDMOTHER W

2 h/h's earlier
GEORGE SHERGOLD 1861 30 Wilton, Wilts HEAD M Platelayer L.S.R.
KATE SHERGOLD 1865 26 Quidhampton, Wilts WIFE M
MATILDA SHERGOLD 1888 3 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER Scholar
KATE SHERGOLD 1889 2 Wilton, Wilts DAUGHTER
JOSEPH B SHERGOLD 1891 0[10m] Wilton, Wilts SON


Using one of the local indexes at: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
specifically, http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/

Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COOKE William T JONES Catherine E E Burcombe, St John the Baptist History Centre C15/1/170

Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHERGOLD George BUCKLAND Kate Wilton, SS Mary & Nicholas History Centre C83/2/68

Deaths Mar 1893 (>99%)
Shergold Kate 28 Wilton 5a 147

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Jones James Joseph W 52 Wilton 5a 108

Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHERGOLD George JONES Sarah J Wilton Register Office or Registrar Attended History Centre WIL_RO/2/160

Unfortunately, WiltsBMD has no Bs/Ds transcribed for the Wilton subdistrict.

Samantha

Samantha Report 19 Oct 2013 21:33

Wow thank you so much for all of the above information, much appreciated