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Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 21:55

Am trying to find information on John dob 1879, Michael dob 1881, James dob 1893 and David dob1896. All Sons of John and Mary Fitzgerald. Cannot find John or Michael on 1901 or 1911 census. Nor James or David on the 1911 census, however David was witness to a marriage in 1913. Thank you in advance..

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 21:56

born where please?

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 21:59

Bethnal Green / Whitechapel /Spitalfields area of London

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 22:03

This family please?

1881

Name: John Fitzgerald
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: John Fitzgerald
Mother: Mary Fitzgerald
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex City, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Bishopsgate
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 2 King Court
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: London City
Sub-registration District: 1C
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 371
Folio: 24
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fitzgerald 25
Mary Fitzgerald 23
Mary Ann Fitzgerald 5
Ann N. Fitzgerald 4
John Fitzgerald 2
Michael Fitzgerald 1 month

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:04

For our information:


1891 England Census about John Fitzgerald
Name: John Fitzgerald
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Fitzgerald
Mother's Name: Mary Fitzgerald
Gender: Male
Where born: St George in the East, London, England

Civil Parish: Old Artillery Ground
Ecclesiastical parish: Spitalfields St Marys
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Whitechapel
Sub-registration District: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 275
Folio: 115
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fitzgerald 35
Mary Fitzgerald 35
Mary Fitzgerald 5
Annie Fitzgerald 14
John Fitzgerald 11
Michael Fitzgerald 10
Ellen Fitzgerald 7
Isabella Fitzgerald 3
Sarah Fitzgerald 1

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:06


1901 England Census about David Fitzgerald
Name: David Fitzgerald
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Fitzgerald
Mother's Name: Mary Fitzgerald
Gender: Male
Where born: Spitalfields, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green South
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 419
Piece: 290
Folio: 186
Page Number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fitzgerald 43
Mary Fitzgerald 41
Isabella Fitzgerald 13
Sarah Fitzgerald 11
Eliza Fitzgerald 9
James Fitzgerald 8
David Fitzgerald 5

Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Oct 2013 22:06

????????


1911

David Fitzgerald

Age in 1911:
15

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1896

Birth Place:London, United Kingdom

Civil Parish:Southwark St George the Martyr

Street Address:14 Foxe's Buildings, Tabard Street, Bermondsey, Southwark, London SE

Marital Status:Single

Occupation:NEWS VENDER


Mary Fitzgerald 47
Julia Fitzgerald 25
John Fitzgerald 20
Hannah Fitzgerald 19
David Fitzgerald 15
Maggie Fitzgerald 12
Micheld Fitzgerald 10

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:07

Yes, correct family

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:09

Yes, correct family

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:11

Thanks Mike, but don't think this is the right David, wrong area and family members.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 22:20

Sorry not seeing any of them in 1911

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:21

Thanks for trying - any idea what I can try next?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:23

David's in the army in 1916.

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about David Fitzgerald
Name: David Fitzgerald
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 20
Residence: 3 Princes Court, B G
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 5693
Regiment Name: Durham Light Infantry
Number of images: 8


Address is the same as mother and sisters in 1911:


1911 England Census about Sarah Fitzgerald
Name: Sarah Fitzgerald
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Princes Court, Bethnal Green
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: SORTER
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Registration District Number: 17
Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Piece: 1444
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Fitzgerald 53 - 9 children, 2 deceased.
Bella Fitzgerald 23 - bon bon maker
Sarah Fitzgerald 21

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:27

Thank you so much ArgyllGran. Can you see if any of the other brothers joined up?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 22:31

On that 1911 Mary is Married. Had been married for 36 years, 9 children born, 7 living and 2 had died. It also very helpfully says that 5 of the 7 living are married. So have you worked out who the 7 living are and which 2 died please?

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:37

John & Mary's children were : Mary Ann, Ann Norah, John, Michael, Ellen, Isabella, Sarah, Eliza, James and David and in 1911 they were in Princes Court, Bethnal Green.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 22:39

Just to summerize. The known children are

Mary Ann b. 1876
Ann N b. 1877
John b. 1879
Michael b. 1881
Ellen b. 1884
Isabella b. 1888
Sarah b. 1890
Eliza b. 1892
James b. 1893
David b. 1896


Except that's 10 children! But only 7 of the above are living in 1911. Sarah and Bella are obviously the two unmarried ones but who are the five that are married?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:42

A tree on Ancestry says this is John in 1911:


1911 England Census about John Fitzgerald
Name: John Fitzgerald
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Liberty of Old Artillery Ground
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Sandys Row, Room 8
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: FRUIT PORTER
Registration District: Whitechapel
Registration District Number: 18
Sub-registration District: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 1468
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fitzgerald 31
Sarah Fitzgerald 29 - nee Gannon
Henry Fitzgerald 6
Ann Norah Fitzgerald 2
Michael Fitzgerald 0
John Fitzgerald 5


Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
Fitzgerald John Whitechapel 1c 277
Gannon Sarah Whitechapel 1c 277

It also says he died in Stepney (no date)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:48

The same tree says Michael died in 1992, but doesn't say where.

[EDIT: No, sorry, that's his nephew - John's son]

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:51

Ann Norah married in 1900.
Eliza married in 1913
Ellen married in 1903
Sarah married in 1912
Isabella married in 1915
Nothing on Mary Ann after 1881 census
Not sure about the boys yet apart from David in the Army.