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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 8 Dec 2013 13:26

John McCallum was a baker from Campbeltown, Argyll in the 1940's. The youngest of 5 children I believe. He was born in 1901, and appears on the Scotland 1901 census. I am not 100% this is the information for the person i am seeking though. There seems to be a bit of confusion in the birth dates. I got this information from the local library, he was definitely a baker in Campbeltown I know that for sure.
Is there anyone else searching this person.
Thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Dec 2013 13:28

Scottish BMD records are available ONLY on Scotland's people... as is the 1911 Scottish census

Credits cost £7.00 for 30

There are NO subscriptions to the site

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Dec 2013 13:29

Hi Elizabeth.

Just a suggestion - you would do better to specify what you mean by 'any info', as people might go looking for information you already have.

Is this him? But too young to appear 1901.

Name: John Calderwood McCallum
Birth: 27 Sep 1903
Death: Oct 1993 - Surrey South-eastern, Surrey, England

Jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Dec 2013 13:35

Someone else on here is looking for the same man

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334759

...................he hasn't returned since he posted his request for help

Suggest you make contact with him by PM............(click on his name)

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Dec 2013 14:18

Just going by the info that Elizabeth has given, these are the censuses that fit and he appears to be the youngest of 5 children.

How do you know he has Calderwood as a middle name as how do you think you are connected to him please?


1901 census transcription details for: 1, Barracks, Argyll Street West Side, Campbeltown
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 507
Folio: 13
Page: 8
Reg. District: Campbeltown
Sub District:
Parish: Campbeltown
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Campbeltown
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Barracks, Argyll Street West Side, Campbeltown
County: Argyllshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MCCALLUM, Archd Head Married M 36 1865 Farmer
Carradale, Argyll
MCMILLAN, Cath Mother-In-Law Widow F 69 1832
Campbeltown, Argyll
MCCALLUM, Bella Wife Married F (?)
Killean, Argyll
MCCALLUM, Jas Son M 8 1893 Scholar
U S America
MCCALLUM, Archd Son M 7 1894 Scholar
U S America
MCCALLUM, Mary Daughter F 4 1897
U S America
MCCALLUM, Kate Daughter F 2 1899
U S America
>>>MCCALLUM, John Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1901
U S America


and


1901 census transcription details for: 9, Lorne Place, Glebe Street, Campbeltown
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 507
Folio: 16
Page: 5
Reg. District: Campbeltown
Sub District:
Parish: Campbeltown
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Campbeltown
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 9, Lorne Place, Glebe Street, Campbeltown
County: Argyllshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MCCALLUM, John Head Married M 48 1853 Carter
Killean G & E, Argyll
MCCALLUM, Euphemia Wife Married F 38 1863
Island of Gigha G & E
MCCALLUM, James Son M 9 1892 Scholar
Campbeltown, Argyll
MCCALLUM, Archibald Son M 8 1893 Scholar
Campbeltown, Argyll
MCCALLUM, Janet Daughter F 6 1895 Scholar
Campbeltown, Argyll
MCCALLUM, Euphemia Daughter F 4 1897
Campbeltown, Argyll
>>MCCALLUM, John Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1901
Campbeltown, Argyll

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 8 Dec 2013 16:17

Thanks for the replies. Iooking at my notes and I have the exact same list for the McCallum family as in the second list above, we believe Calderwood was maybe his mother's maiden name.

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Dec 2013 17:21

This appears to be James christening, can't find any others.

father: John Mccallum
mother: Euphemia Mcdonald Mccallum
Name James Mccallum
Gender Male
Christening Date
Christening Place
Birth Date 19 May 1891
Birthplace Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name John Mccallum
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Euphemia Mcdonald Mccallum
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C01904-6
System Origin Scotland-EASy
GS Film number 255120
Reference ID v 507 p 51

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Dec 2013 18:00

This is Euphemia in 1861 (note that her age decreased over the years)

Following Scottish naming pattern, her second son was Archibald

Name: Euphemia McDonald
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Archibald McDonald
Mother's Name: Catherine McDonald
Gender: Female
Where born: Gigha, Argyllshire
Registration number: 537
Registration District: Gigha and Cara
Civil Parish: Gigha and Cara
County: Argyll
Address: South Ardaily

Archibald McDonald 55
Catherine McDonald 48
Mary McDonald 17
Flora McDonald 16
Catherine McDonald 10
Archibald McDonald 8
Macolm McDonald 6
Margaret McDonald 4
> Euphemia McDonald 2
Allen McDonald 45
Neil Galbraith 40
John Graham 20

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Dec 2013 18:09

the same family in 1871

Archibald Mcdonald 65
Catherine Mcdonald 56
Malcolm M Mcdonald 19
Euphemia Mcdonald 18
Euphemia Wilkenson 2

The younger Euphemia is a granddaughter of Archibald and Catherine


Obviously the John in the 1901 census above was not born in 1903 and a birthday in September would not match with being 1 month old in 1901 (family members who registered deaths of someone born in that era commonly had their year of birth wrong but would be more likely to have their birthday right).

Do you know who registered his death and what their relationship was, and any other information it gives about him, for instance his occupation?

If you don't have that death certificate, assuming it is your man, that is where you need to start.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 8 Dec 2013 18:32

Thank you, No I do not know who would register the death, I am just starting back up with this again after many months, after coming up against a brick wall.

Thank you again.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Dec 2013 18:36

........ the only way to find out who registered the death in 1993 is to get the death certificate!

I believe the certificate should show the deceased's residence at birth so if it was his home address that could be checked on the electoral roll (as Reggie said in the thread he linked to above, the electoral roll has to be consulted at the library and can only be searched by address).

This seems the only way you are going to find out anything about the person who died in 1993.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Dec 2013 18:37

Had 1 credit left for Scotlandspeople.

This appears to be John's birth.

1903 MCCALLUM JOHN CALDERWOOD M CAMPBELTOWN /ARGYLL 507/00 0201

If you spend £7 on 30 credits for Scotlandspeople, you will be able to view the birth registration which will also tell you where and when his parents married.

You can then use your remaining 23 credits to work back from his parents marriage or use the credits to find the family on the 1911 census on Scotlandspeople.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 8 Dec 2013 18:40

Thank you very much for that

Regards

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Dec 2013 18:41

if you search at scotlandspeople for births with surname McCallum given name Calderwood born in 1903 there is one match. Actually I made the given name 'john calderwood' and there is the same one match.

Narrowing the search, it was in Argyll.
Narrowing it further it was in Campbelltown.

That is the person who died in 1993 in Surrey, it would seem quite sure.

Not the infant John McCallum in the 1901 census.



JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Dec 2013 19:01

A total of 3 male McCallum female Calderwood marriages between 1855 and 2012 are shown at scotlandspeople ... you can do these searches too ... without paying to see details you can still narrow the searches sufficiently to know whether to pay for them.

Between 1880 and 1905 there was 1.
It was in Argyll.
It was in Campbeltown.
... It was in 1893.

Just guessing common names ... the groom was John.

Couples in Campbeltown in 1901 including a John with children born in the 1890s

John Euphemia, they're out
John Grace
John Agnes
John Catherine

Testing back at sp, Grace it is.

John McCallum and Grace Calderwood.

1901 census

Town: Campbeltown
County: Argyll
Address: Millknowe

John Mccallum 35 born Campbeltown, Van Driver
Grace Mccallum 29 born Campbeltown, Van Driver Wife
Grace Mccallum 7
Margaret Mccallum 6
Mary Mccallum 3


That is the family of the John Calderwood McCallum who died in 1993 in Surrey, to a virtual certainty, I would say.



ah, I see rootgatherer was spending a credit to find the John Calderwood McCallum birth I found by process of elimination :-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Dec 2013 20:13

Just had an odd credit left so no problem using it to check for the birth.

I would still advise that Elizabeth spends some money on credits to work back from John. £7 would easily get his birth and parents marriage registrations and either the birth or death registrations for the parents. Or indeed the marriages for his grandparents.

Looking at the 1871 census, there are at least 3 possibles for John McCallum b abt.1866.

This 1891 census may be helpful but again without getting certain facts from Scotlandspeople, I wouldn't like to send you off on a wild goose chase.

1891

Name: John McCallum
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Campbeltown, Argyllshire
Registration number: 507
Registration District: Campbeltown
Civil Parish: Campbeltown
Town: Campbeltown
County: Argyll
Address: Glebe Street
Occupation: Van Man <<<<<<<<<
ED: 15
Household Schedule Number: 143
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_165
Household Members:
Name Age
Neil Galbraith 35
Mary Galbraith 28
Catherine McNair Galbraith 6
Margaret Galbraith 4
John Galbraith 1
John McCallum 23

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Dec 2013 21:05

absolutely, the 1903 birth certificate is the place to start ... if this is the person wanted, which it seems to be :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Dec 2013 21:58

Elizabeth

Why don't you follow my advice and contact the other person researching this man?

Have you even looked at the thread to which I posted the link?

...........you specifically asked if anyone else was researching him................!!

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 Dec 2013 22:32

the two threads posted within a week certainly are an amazing coincidence :-D

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 9 Dec 2013 20:12

I do know Ian, and through a mix up in communications, we both posted about the same person.