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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Apr 2014 23:52

Blaine_
Unfortunately, it's impossible to tell from the births listed on SP if Wilhelmina and James had any or not, as you can't search with mms after 1854, and Stewart is such a common name.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Apr 2014 23:45

Thanks, Rootsgatherer!
I usually do leave the parameters pretty wide when searching for anything.

Isn't it a great feeling when a bit of lateral thinking lets you find something not immediately obvious!

Blaine

Blaine Report 4 Apr 2014 23:41

Thanks Alviegal, Agyllgran and rootgatherer.... 1 of the 4 has been found!

At this time, I assume that Wilhelmina and James Stewart had no children.

I also know the correct death date for her father.

Her brother, Charles has such a common name. It may be difficult to find him.

Thx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Apr 2014 23:32

ArgyllGran, don't be put off by not finding someone when searching by name on deceased online. When I searched for OH's 4x G Grandfather I found nothing. I searched for his daughter then paid to checked others buried in the lair and he was there. He was well known in Forfar in his day and even has a plaque of commemoration at the house where he lived. He is not named on the headstone and his wife is buried in another part of the cemetery but again not named on the headstone or listed when searching.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Apr 2014 23:22

Death of her father Thomas Ross - ie - not the unsubstantiated death on 10/12/1917 in Carnoustie, given in a tree on Ancestry. There's no sign of that death on SP in any case.

1935 ROSS THOMAS M 92 BARRY /ANGUS 274/00 0011

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Apr 2014 22:53

That'll be the right one, alviegal.

This is the death of Blaine's Wilhelmina:

1931 ROSS WILHELMINA STEWART F 61 ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/02 0663

The image says:
Wilhelmina Stewart, widow of James Stewart, gardener.
26th July 1931, at Royal Infirmary, Dundee.
Home address: 56 Millar Street, Carnoustie.
Father: Thomas Ross, gardener.
Mother: Jane Ross, ms Davidson, deceased.
Cause of death: carcinoma of colon.
Informant: Father, Thomas Ross, 56 Millar Street, Carnoustie

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Apr 2014 22:35

Maybe?

1913 STEWART JAMES ROSS WILHELMINA D MAINS AND STRATHMARTINE /ANGUS 307/00 0034

alviegal

alviegal Report 4 Apr 2014 22:22

!891 for ref.

1891 census transcription details for: Kinloch Street, Barry
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 274
Folio: 2
Page: 21
Reg. District: Barry
Sub District:
Parish: Barry
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Kinloch Street, Barry
County: Forfarshire (Angus)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROSS, Thomas Head Married M 47 1844 Goods Carrier
Kirkden, Forfar
ROSS, Jane Wife Married F 47 1844
Rescobie, Forfar
ROSS, Wilhelmina Daughter Unmarried F 21 1870 Boot Fitter
Inverkeillor, Forfar
ROSS, Jas Son Unmarried M 20 1871 Boot Finisher
Inverkeillor, Forfar
ROSS, John Son Unmarried M 14 1877 Boot Benchman
Arbirlot, Forfar
ROSS, Chas Son Unmarried M 11 1880 Scholar
Arbirlot, Forfar
ROSS, Andrew S Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Carnoustie, Forfar
ROSS, Mary J Daughter F 3 1888
Carnoustie, Forfar

Blaine

Blaine Report 4 Apr 2014 18:46

Thanks for the replies...

Not sure if I should post this or not... but will.

another Davidson or 2 to be found...
Jane Davidson married Thomas Ross 1866 Inverkeillor Angus in 1866
They had a son Charles Alexander Ross b. 13 Jun 1879 Arbirlot Angus.
He was home in the 1891 census for Scotland. I cannot locate him after this
date. He also had a sister Whilhemina Davidson Ross b. 12 Apr 1869 Inverkeillor.
She is single in the 1911 census... Cannot locate her after his.... Deaths do not
seem to be in Scotland.. tried many combinations to try to find them on Scotlandspeople...

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Apr 2014 18:38

Deceased Online have no records for a Donald Monro / Monroe / Munro buried 1841.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Apr 2014 17:03

Deceased online cover the Angus area very well. Have you looked for a burial for Donald. If Ann was buried in the same lair that would get you a date of burial.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Apr 2014 17:01

The problem is you are searching for fairly common surnames. Are you aware that female deaths in Scotland (after 1855) are indexed under married and maiden surnames? So, for example if the informant of Ann's death gave her father's surname and stated that she was widow of Donald Munro and married to or widow of someone else all three surnames would be on the index.

Blaine

Blaine Report 4 Apr 2014 16:50

I guess Ann could have remarried.. but I did not find anything when I looked.

Blaine

Blaine Report 4 Apr 2014 16:48

I have DonaldMonroe born 1810 Farnell Angus...

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Apr 2014 16:48

So where did you get her year and place of birth from please?


Name: John Munro
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 01 Dec 1839
Christening Place: KIRKDEN,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1839
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Donald Munro
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anne Davidson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11298-4
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 993442
Reference ID:


Is it possible that Ann remarried ?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2014 16:47

So he won't be on the census, which wasn't taken until June

Blaine

Blaine Report 4 Apr 2014 16:45

I have Donald Munro dying 6 May 1841

Blaine

Blaine Report 4 Apr 2014 16:41

My typing error... Donald Munro died in 1841

Blaine

Blaine Report 4 Apr 2014 16:40

Hello there... I did not find Ann on any census.. if that helps

Thx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Apr 2014 16:40

????

burial register summary
last name
Monro
first names
Donald
burial date
31 October 1881
authority Angus Council
location
Montrose Old Cemeteries (Angus)