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Andrew Hennessey and Helen Shearer

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Apr 2014 16:09

One of the many possibles is this one. Probably a complete red herring.
This Mary Shearer is travelling with children John (17), Archibald (15), Alfred (13), Margaret (10) and Hugh (4). Their home address is 43 Gordon Street, Govan.
They're travelling 3rd class, and intending Canada to be their permanent residence.
Their passage was paid by the Salvation Army (per the Canadian Passenger List for the same voyage).

But without investigating the children's birth certs, there's no way of telling if they could be the right family or not, among the many other possibilities.


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Mary Shearer
Name: Mary Shearer
Gender: Female
Age: 46
Birth Date: abt 1880
Departure Date: 16 May 1926
Port of Departure: Greenock, Scotland
Destination Port: Halifax, Canada
Ship Name: Baltic
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Baltic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Line
Official Number: 118101
Master: E R White

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Apr 2014 16:00

I don't see David & Mary in Scotland in 1911.
There are two David Shearers of the right age in Glasgow, but neither is with a second person with forename Mary.
The only David Shearer with second person Mary in the whole of Scotland is one a couple of years younger, living in Orkney.

I suppose it's possible Mary wasn't at home on the night of the census.

These are the two results in Glasgow:

1911 SHEARER DAVID M 33 GOVANHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/16 020/00 023

1911 SHEARER DAVID M 32 CALTON (GLASGOW) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 039/00 008

I don't see them in the census for the rest of the UK, and nothing definite in overseas records so far. They are common names, unfortunately.

The only Mary Shearer with other surname Taylor who died in Scotland was born in 1904, so obviously not her.

Walter

Walter Report 7 Apr 2014 14:12

Thank you all for your info. Helen was My fathers aunty and I am searching for family of her and her brothers. My grandfather was Walter,the oldest, and I am looking for the others,
Adam (1869), Helen(1875) and David (1878). I know about Adam and his 2 wives, Margaret Mclaren married 1896 and she died 1920 with no visible children, and Margaret Jacobsen married 26/09/1931. As Margaret was 41 when wed I do not expect any children.
Helen we know married Andrew and argylgran has found a death notice for her.
David married Mary Galbraith Turner 10/09/1909 in Blythswood Glasgow. I have not yet checked the 1911 census for these two.
All of the above happened in the Glasgow area and I have not checked for anything outside Scotland.
Once again with many thanks Walter

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2014 11:43

Just in case exact dob useful, this fits with the info ArgyllGran already posted:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Andrew Hennessy
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 3 Oct 1871
Birth Place: Hutchesontown,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father: Andrew Hennessy
Mother: Isabella Todd
FHL Film Number: 6035516

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Apr 2014 10:27

Or this one - similar lack of any useful detail:


British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Andrew Hennessey
Name: Andrew Hennessey
Regiment or Corps: Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
Regimental Number: S/26697

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Apr 2014 10:26

Maybe? No address or DOB given, so can't tell:


British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Andrew Hennessey
Name: Andrew Hennessey
Regiment or Corps: Cameron Highlanders
Regimental Number: 7490

enlisted 14/08/14.
discharged, unfit 26/11/15

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Apr 2014 10:12

I can't see Andrew in 1901 or 1911 - he may have been at sea at the time.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Apr 2014 10:05

PM sent to let Walter know he has replies here.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 18:35

Related thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1339133?jump=1339133

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 18:27

???


New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 about A Hennessey
Name: A Hennessey
Estimated birth year: abt 1870 (born Glasgow)
Age: 49
Port of Departure: Wellington
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 19 May 1919
Vessel Name: Willochra


He's a crew member, a trimmer.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 18:19

Oh, how sad!
Helen died three years after marriage.

1899 HENNESSEY HELEN SHEARER F 24 CATHCART (LANARK) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 560/00 0239

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 18:14

The Helen in Angus in 1901, mentioned by Kay above, is not the right one.
That one's the unmarried daughter of James & Helen Hennessy.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 18:07

???


Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1948 about Andrew Hennessey
Name: Andrew Hennessey
Arrival Date: 23 Dec 1888
Age: 17 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Prussian
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Last Residence: Scotland
Birthplace: Scotland
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_11

He's listed as a labourer, and had not been in the US before.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 18:05


1891 Scotland Census about Ellen Shearer
Name: Ellen Shearer
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's name: Marion Shearer
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/13
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 13 Kinning St
Occupation: Tailorers
ED: 36
Household schedule number: 20
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1891_295
Household Members:
Name Age
Marion Shearer 54
Walter Shearer 26
Adam Shearer 31
Ellen Shearer 16
David Shearer 12

patchem

patchem Report 6 Apr 2014 17:52

Is this him?
1881 Scotland Census
Andrew Hennsey
Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 646/1
Registration district: Govan Church Civil Parish: Govan Church County: Lanarkshire
Address: 80 Eaglesham St.
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2 Household schedule number: 230 LINE: 15 Roll: cssct1881_254
Jane Parson 60
Eliza Parson 20
Rebecca Carey 30
Andrew Hennsey 10
Source Citation: Parish: Govan Church; ED: 2; Page: 41; Line: 15; Roll: cssct1881_254.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 6 Apr 2014 17:50

? Scotland 1901 has Helen Hennessey bn 1877 listed in Angus.


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 17:45

Their births:

1875 SHEARER HELEN BUCHANAN F DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0111

1871 HENNESSY ANDREW M HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/10 2142

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2014 17:41

The marriage details:

Andrew Hennessey aged 25, seaman merchant service, bachelor.
Usual residence: 83 Govan Road, Govan.
Father: Andrew Hennessey, seaman, deceased.
Mother: Isabella McKinney, formerly Hennessey, ms Todd.

Helen Buchanan Shearer, aged 21, seamstress, spinster.
Usual residence: 24 Kinning Street, Glasgow
Father: Walter Shearer, omnibus conductor, deceased.
Mother: Marion Shearer, ms Alcorn

Witnesses: James Wilkie, seaman
Sarah Morrison, seamstress

patchem

patchem Report 6 Apr 2014 17:31

Walter has an Andrew Hennessey, 1871, place unspecified, in his tree on here. Also an 1850 Andrew.

patchem

patchem Report 6 Apr 2014 17:28

Could you say how they are related to you, and if they had any children?

How did you arrive at either of them?

Thank-you