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I am trying to find my gran Edith Anne Brown who was born @ 1896 I know not where. Her father was Charles Edward Brown who was a gamekeeper. They lived at one point at Rose Cottage in Burtersett near Hawes in North Yorks but when, I don't know. I believe she had 2 sisters one called Rose but this is only hearsay. She was a nurse during the war and married my grandad in 1926 at Rocester Staffs and lived her life in Alton staffs she died in 1961.

Any help would be brilliant. Thanks Fiona

I'm sure you would have said if you knew, but I'll ask just in case -

do you have any idea of her mother's name, Fiona?

Was her father still alive when she married?

I don't know anything about her family. Dad and his sisters never met them and they were never talked about. He was on the marrage certificate but didn't witness it.

fiona

Is this her?



1911

Name:
Edith Brown
Age in 1911:17
Estimated birth year:abt 1894
Relation to Head:Daughter
Birth Place:London, United Kingdom

Civil Parish:Lambeth
County/Island:London
Street address:35 Bolton Street, Kennington Park, Kennington S E

Marital Status:Single
Occupation:SEWING MACHINIST BEDDING

Registration district:
Lambeth

Charles Edward Brown 45 - Oxton
Edith Brown 42 - London, - married 20 yrs.. 9 children born, I died
Ellen Brown 19
Edith Brown 17
Ada Brown 16
Florence Brown 14
Matilda Brown 11
Jessie Brown 9
Edward Brown 5
Grace Brown 1

It is certainly the right age. does it give an occupation for the father?

Fiona

1911 -Green grocer


1901

Chas Brown 35 - Manager Fruiterer - Hoxton
Edith Brown 31
Ellen Brown 9
Edith Brown 7
Ada Brown 6
Florrie Brown 4
Matilda Brown 1

Green grocer . Could be. bit of a jump to a gamekeeper but not impossible i suppose.

thanks fiona

Are you surre he was Charles Edward ?


Name:
Edward Charles Brown

Baptism Date:23 Jul 1865

Father's Name:Robert Brown
Mother's name:Mary Brown

Parish or Poor Law Union:Hoxton St John
Borough:Hackney
Register Type:Parish Registers

Or maybe

1901

Edith Brown
Age:5
Estimated birth year:abt 1896

Relation to Head:
Daughter
Father:Charles Brown
Mother:Kate Brown
Birth Place:Hanley Castle, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish:Aston
Ecclesiastical parish:St Anne
County/Island:Warwickshire

Charles Brown 28 - Carter on Farm
Kate Brown 29
Edith Brown 5
George Brown 2
Florence Brown 3 Months

that sounds more promising.

fiona

This Charles is a gamekeeper but Edith's age is wrong

1901

Charles E Brown 40 - Gamekeeper -Wynyardlak, Durham,
Alice Brown 40 - Alford, Lincolnshire
Fred Brown 13
Edith Brown 12 -
Alice Brown 11 Hathfield, Kent
Charley Brown 6
Dick Brown 3

This is very promising, though on her death cert it says she was 67 in 1962.

does it say where she was born? It does'nt say on death cert.

fiona

sorry ...

Edith also born Hathfield, Kent

Many thanks for this, you have been a real help.

fiona

Here's the same family in 1911. Edith's still not the expected age. Charles had had 7 children, 4 still living, 3 had died:


1911 England Census about Charles Edward Brown
Name: Charles Edward Brown
Age in 1911: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wynyard Park, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Urpeth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: Birtley S O Durham
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Game Keeper <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Chester le Street
Registration District Number: 554
Sub-registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 30106
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Edward Brown 53 born Wynyard Park, Durham
Edith Brown 22 b. New Forest, Hothfield, Kent
Alice Brown 21 - b. New Forest, Hothfield, Kent
Charles Brown 16 - gamekeeper's assistant, b. Cookey House, Lamesley, Durham
C R Brown 13 - b. Cookey House, Lamesley, Durham
J W Burdun 16 - visitor, b. Tunstall, Durham.



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Charles Edward Brown
Name: Charles Edward Brown
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1858
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 97

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Charles Edward Brown
Name: Charles Edward Brown
Probate Date: 26 Mar 1942
Death Date: 4 Mar 1942
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: Llandudno
of Rose Cattage,etc. Probate to Alice Burdon.(widow)
........
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Alice Brown
Name: Alice Brown
Spouse Surname: Burdon (John W)
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration district: Houghton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 807
..........

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Alice Burdon
Name: Alice Burdon
Probate Date: 27 Jul 1959
Death Date: 27 Apr 1959
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: Yorkshire, England

Address again Rose Cottage Burtersett near Hawes probate to Edith Annie Armstrong married woman.


Maureen

There is an extensive tree at Ancestry that has Edith Anne Brown born 20th Aug 1888 in Kent


Births Sep 1888

BROWN Edith Annie V W. Ashford 2a 745


This is one of her siblings



UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Name:Calverley Richard Brown

Birth Place:Beamish, Durham

Residence:Corsham, Wilts

Death Date:9 Oct 1917

Death Location:France & Flanders

Enlistment Location:Trowbridge, Wilts

Rank:Private

Regiment:Duke of Edinburgh's (Wiltshire Regiment)

Battalion:6th Battalion

Number:18818

Type of Casualty:Killed in action

Theatre of War:Western European Theatre





BROWN, C R
Rank:PrivateService No:18818Date of Death:09/10/1917Age:19Regiment/Service:Wiltshire Regiment 6th Bn. Grave ReferenceFusilier Wood Memorial.CemeteryDUHALLOW A.D.S. CEMETERY
Additional Information:

Son of Charles Edward Brown; brother of Alice Burden (nee Brown), of 23, Somerset St., New Silksworth, Sunderland.



If this is her death reg, I suspect she 'shaved' a few years off her age, as many did!


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Edith A Hollins

Birth Date:abt 1895

Date of Registration:Dec 1962

Age at Death:67

Registration district:Cheadle

Inferred County:Staffordshire

Volume:9b

Page:141

Baptism (Find My Past)

Edith Annie Varney Brown
Baptism Day 2
Baptism Month Dec
Year 1888
Place Hothfield
County Kent
Abode Hothfield
Relationship Daughter of
Father's First Name Charles Edward
Mother's Given Name Alice
Parent's Occupation Gamekeeper
Hothfield baptisms 1662-1911
Record set Kent Baptisms

Chris :)

Nice one Chris, the mothers maiden was Varney :-)

Wow, many thanks for all this information. Where has the name Armstrong come from?

All seems to fit with what I know but, was she mrried before and he died? Plenty for me to look into.

again thanks for your help.

fiona