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Helen Louisa Parker Gloucester 1907

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Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 14:43

Resolved this - Ella Remarried after death of first husband and she became Mrs Cj Hickman - CJ Beung husbands initials DOH!

Thank you all for your excellent help and special thanks to Marie for her brilliant input. You are all fantastic

Gresham :-D

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 13:17

Spanner in works mind, as going by the census AE Lane's parents taken as WJ Lane and Ella Isabella Bush, so not sure where Ms CJ Hickman fits in. I believe Ella died 1959 so strange not mentioned as mother of AEL. perhaps a dalliance.............. Oh dear could blow the tree considerably. :-(

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 12:41

Wow thank you Marie my friend will love that as a memory <3

Graham

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Aug 2014 12:23

This article from Gloucester Citizen dated 01 May 1935 has siblings names that don't quite match. I think the brother W J is obviously William as shown on the census. Rose could be either Ida Rose or Rosina. Does confirm father as the late Mr W.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/8206661

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Aug 2014 12:11

In case you didn't have it:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/8206655

From Gloucester Journal 04 May 1935

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Aug 2014 12:02

Seems that William died soon after the 1911:

Deaths Jun 1911
Parker William A L 39 Bristol 6a 124

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 12:00

Thank you Marie that looks very promising, not sure why Helen Louisa is not mentioned but all else looks spot on. Really appreciate your send everyone else's input.

Thank you kindly.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Aug 2014 11:57

I'm wondering if the Doris born 1908 is a nickname for Helen Louisa?

I can find no corresponding birth for a Doris - there is a Doris Irene born Bristol 1908 but I've found her on the 1911 with parents George and Laura.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Aug 2014 11:52

So if Rosina Mary Parker's mother was Davey then that family above in 1911 is correct:

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: William Albert Lionell Parker
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1872
Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1896
Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father: William Richard Parker
Spouse: Rose Davey <<<<
FHL Film Number: 1565939
Reference ID: p 44 n 87

His middle names obtained from the baptism of daughter Ida who is on the 1911:

England, Select Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
Name: Ida Rose Parker
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1898
Baptism Place: Knowle, Holy Nativity, Somersetshire, England
Father: William Albert Lionel Parker
Mother: Rose Parker
FHL Film Number: 4183137

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Aug 2014 11:16

This is the 1911 that matches that baptism so not sure about it, as siblings don't match:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census
9 Whitby Road Brislington Bristol, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Parker Head Married Male 38 1873 Dock Labourer Chestterton Place Bristol Glos
Rose Parker Wife Married Female 38 1873 - Anne St Bath Rd Bristol Som
Ida Parker Daughter - Female 14 1897 Helping Her Mother At Home Anne St Totterdown Som
William Parker Jun Son - Male 6 1905 School Sandhurst Rd Brislington Som
Martha Parker Daughter - Female 5 1906 School Sandhurst Rd Brislington Som
Doris Parker Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Bath Rd Totterdown Som

Married 14 years, 8 children born and just the 4 listed still alive

ADDED: This census is under Knowle registration district which makes me think it's the correct one for that baptism.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Aug 2014 11:14

A possible?

England, Select Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
Name: Martha Selina Parker
Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1907
Baptism Place: Knowle, Holy Nativity, Somersetshire, England
Father: William Parker
Mother: Rose Parker
FHL Film Number: 4183140

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 10:52

Deleted last post as confused myself. Meant to say can't find a marriage between a Davey and a Parker during suitable timeline

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 10:36

Just checked FREEBMD and quotes maiden name Davey for mother of RMP
PROGRESS :-D

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 10:34

I now understand there are siblings

Martha Selina Parker Q1 1906 BRISTOL 6a 145 stayed single
Rosina M Parker q3 BRISTOL 1911, married Arthur Probert, q2 1937, BRISTOL 6a 71, died October 1987 Weston Super Mare

MSP also I cannot see on census :-(

graham

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Aug 2014 10:05

Bristol was in Glos in those days, but the records aren't held at Gloucester, and haven't been accessed by the volunteers who maintain the Glos site

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Aug 2014 10:00

My mistake - I was going by the freebmd description of the Bristol reg district.

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 16 Aug 2014 09:56

Hi Jacqueline, I'm doing for a friend and she is certain of the birth date and the marriage to AEL

The death details you have are correct. I did have that and should have included sorry.

Graham

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Aug 2014 09:55

Is this why?

First name(s) HELEN LOUISA
Last name LANE
Gender Female
Birth day 25
Birth month 11
Birth year 1907
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1986
District BARNSTAPLE
Register number 686
County Devon
Volume 21
Page 912
Country England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Aug 2014 09:52

Graham

Why do you think that the birth matches the marriage?

Detective

GlosBMD does not include Bristol

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Aug 2014 09:26

If you are confident that the birth reg is correct, go for that one.

Added - don't rush off to the gro site just yet - Someone with a different way of looking at things may be able to find census later today.