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Just to add to rootgather's postings:-

NAME: Caroline Estope
AGE: 7
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: 1854
RELATION: Granddaughter
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Bishbury, Staffordshire, England
CIVIL PARISH: Ercall Magna
TOWN: Ercall Magna
COUNTY/ISLAND: Shropshire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Wellington
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Ercall Magna
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 5
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 23
PIECE: 1896
FOLIO: 45
PAGE NUMBER: 7
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
William Gale 61 - Shepherd
Ann Gale 52
Caroline Estope 7


Possible????

NAME: Caroline Easthope
GENDER: Female
BAPTISM DATE: 12 Oct 1855
BAPTISM PLACE: St. Peter's, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
FATHER: Richard Easthope
MOTHER: Maria
FHL FILM NUMBER: 1040895
REFERENCE ID: item 4 p 161


...........but here again we need the marriage cert. to find out father's name.

I noticed all those too rootgatherer but wasn't sure as the child in 1891 census is noted as Ethel and not Edith so didn't post?

We really need to know what the marriage cert. says to be sure, but they do all seem to fit, although I couldn't find a suitable marriage for Caroline either?

Maybe?

1871

Caroline Easthope
AGE: 17
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1854
RELATION: Granddaughter
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Coven Heath, Staffordshire, England
CIVIL PARISH: Ercall Magna
TOWN: High Ercall
COUNTY/ISLAND: Shropshire
COUNTRY: England
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Wellington
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Ercall Magna
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 5
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 36
PIECE: 2805
FOLIO: 43
PAGE NUMBER: 6
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
William Gale 71
Ann Gale 63
Caroline Easthope 17
William Yenbrey 25

Edith Gertrude Whitehouse
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1873
REGISTRATION QUARTER: Oct-Nov-Dec
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Penkridge
INFERRED COUNTY: Staffordshire
VOLUME: 6b
PAGE: 449

1911

Edith Gertrude Whitehouse
AGE IN 1911: 37
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1874
RELATION TO HEAD: Servant
GENDER: Female
BIRTH PLACE: Fordhouses, Bushbury, Staffordshire
CIVIL PARISH: Heath
COUNTY/ISLAND: Staffordshire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: Baden Villa, Wolverhampton Road, New Cross, Heath Town
MARITAL STATUS: Single
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Wolverhampton
REGISTRATION DISTRICT NUMBER: 369
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Willenhall
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 1
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 169
PIECE: 17083
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Ann Mason 66
Edith Gertrude Whitehouse

1901

Edith G Whitehouse
AGE: 27
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1874
RELATION TO HEAD: Niece
GENDER: Female
BIRTH PLACE: Bushbury, Staffordshire, England
CIVIL PARISH: Bushbury
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: Bushbury St Mary and Essington
COUNTY/ISLAND: Staffordshire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Cannock
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Brewood
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 21
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 2661
FOLIO: 94
PAGE NUMBER: 27
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 185
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Harriet Daw 65
Henry E Daw 32
Edith G Whitehouse 27
May Piggott 19
Carrie Faulkner 13
Richard Timms 32
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1881

Caroline Whitehouse
AGE: 27
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1854
RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD: Granddaughter
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Bushbury, Staffordshire, England
CIVIL PARISH: Bushbury
COUNTY/ISLAND: Staffordshire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: Stafford Rd
EDUCATION:

EMPLOYMENT STATUS:

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OCCUPATION: Letter Carrier (S M)
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Cannock
SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Brewood
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 14
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 2782
FOLIO: 32
PAGE NUMBER: 2
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
William Gale 81, b. Worcester, Deaf
Caroline Whitehouse 27
Edith G. Whitehouse 7 Great Granddaughter

Just to go back to the missing child:-

You state that Henry and Caroline married in 1889:-
Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
Dabbs Henry Cannock 6b 683
WHITEHOUSE Caroline Cannock 6b 683

and

Ethel Ann was born:-
Births Jun 1890 (>99%)
Dabbs Ethel Ann Cannock 6b 486

....................but if you go back and take a look at 1891 census there is another child called Ethel who is 10yrs old so born abt. 1881 before the couple were married, so she is either the illegitimate daughter of Caroline, her daughter from a previous marriage, or she could also be the daughter of Henry.

Can't see a birth for an Ethel Dabbs, but there are two possible births for an Ethel Whitehouse:-

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
WHITEHOUSE Ethel Mary W.Bromwich 6b 884
Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
Whitehouse Ethel Phoebe E W. Bromwich 6b 836


Do you have the marriage certificate, this should note if Whitehouse was her maiden name or if she had been married before?

Do you have any other info about Caroline before the marriage?

or you can pay the relevant archive office to do some of the initial work for you ; it saves a lot of time + cost if you don't need the original documents each time
. they charge per hour but do the work much quicker than amatuers

but doing it yourself is fun

you may see a family connection on an eadjoining page that a professional researcher could miss .
happy hunting : let us know how you get on

or you can payb the archive office to do some of the initial work for you ; it saves a lot of time + cost if you don't need the original documents each time . they charge per hour but do the work much quicker than amatuers

but doing it yourself is fun = you may see a family connection on an eadjoining page that a professional researcher may miss .

No Argyllgran, I am so sorry I completely missed that post for some reason!!! Thank you!
Caroline on one of the posts it mentioned Caroline on the 1911 census as having 2 children, where did you find this record and do you have the names of both children?

Have you discounted the death record I posted earlier?
(See post dated 28 Dec @ 17:12)

If you mean the exact address, you'd have to buy a copy of the death cert from GRO, quoting the Volume and Page numbers given in my post.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Well that actually sounds like fun!!!! So Birmingham Archives it is then!!

Would I be able to find out where she died online or would that be the Archives too??


Kind regards

Sarah

Admission dates aren't on line - you'll have to contact the relevant archive for the Asylum/WH records.

Sometimes research had to be done the old fashioned way, by pouring over dusty ledgers! :-D

Hi,

Yes you have the right Caroline Dabbs nee Whitehouse if she married Henry dabs and had a daughter Ethel Ann Dabbs. Although I did notice that one record showed another child? I have no record of another child she may have had and I have never heard the family mention it. Isuppose its not beyond the realms of possibility Does anyone have an admissions date for her? I suppose the only thing I can do is to go and visit the Birmingham Archives myself.

So where do I go from here?

Thank you so much for all your help,

Kind regards

Sarah Adams nee Capewell

Hello Sarah and welcome to the Community boards.



(I'll let Sarah know how to find her replies) :-)

Connected thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1347910

The following thread discusses where people who died in the WH/Asylum might be buried
http://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=35299

This site may be of interest to you

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Aston

At the end of the page it says that the records are held at Birmingham Archives and Heritage Centre
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/archivesandheritage

Either visit or contact them to search their discharge records. They will make a charge if you can't go in person. They may still hold her file which could make poignant reading.

This link will give you a bit of information on the workhouse:-

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Aston/

On other web sites where people have been trying to find out about admissions to Birmingham Workhouses it has been suggested that they contact Birmingham Library as it would seem that, that is where the archives are kept.

Good luck, hope you find what you are looking for.