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Wenceslaus Maly from Austria -

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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 13:02

found him in London in 1901 , and marriage in 1892
but trying to find him previous to that if anyone can see him.
There is talk he went to america -but it is only talk!
i'll post 1901 below

Wenceslaws Maly
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Maria J Maly
Birth Place: Foreysi, Bohemia
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Search Photos: Search for 'St Pancras' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent's Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 131
Folio: 119
Page Number: 72
Household schedule number: 685
Household Members:
Name Age
Wenceslaws Maly 37
Maria J Maly 30
Matilda A Maly 6
Winifred M Maly 5
Sidney F Maly 1

i think 'foreysi' actually just says foreign

thanks for any help x

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 13:18

this looks like some of them in 1911- and the lodger is a 'chappell'same as Maria's maiden name


but no sign of Wenceslaus


Matilda Jane Capon
Age in 1911: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Pancras
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Search Photos: Search for 'St Pancras' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 193 Kings Road, Camden Town N W
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: East St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 721
Household Members:
Name Age
Matilda Jane Capon 64
Annie Capon 32
Winifred Marie Maly 15
Sidney Ferdenend Maly 11
William Robert Chappell 42
SAVE

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Feb 2016 13:22

1901 for occupation and places of birth for family in case it helps. Wenceslaus on original is shown as born Bohemia,(Foreign) Austria

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
22, Granby Street, St Pancras, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Wenceslaus Maly Head Married Male 37 1864 Lady's Tailor -
Maria J Maly Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Islington, Middlesex, England
Matilda A Maly Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Winifred M Maly Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Sidney F Maly Son - Male 1 1900 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
William Robert Chappell Lodger Bachelor Male Ladies Cab Driver 42 1869 Islington

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and in the 1911 that you have posted, Winifred and Sidney are listed as Grandchildren

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 13:28

sorry meant to put that! yes thats right -i'm not sure yet how she is a grandmother -from which side yet,

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Feb 2016 13:40

This is available on Family Search with the original document available there too. It has him as a Ladies Tailor. He is last on the page will try to see if he is with anyone. Last town of Permanent residence says Montreal. Name and address of nearest relative or friend in country whence alien came says None.
Unable to read Final destination

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK3Y-XC7RWenseslaus Maly

Vermont, St. Albans Canadian Border Crossings
Name Wenseslaus Maly
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1909
Event Place Vermont, United States
Gender Male
Age 45
Birth Year (Estimated) 1864
Birth Country Austria

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2016 13:41

???????????
in the Nebraska, State Census Collection, 1860-1885
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Name: Wenceslaus Maly
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1864
Birth Place: Moravia
Race: White
Residence: Skull Creek, Butler, Nebraska
Census Year: 1885
Enumeration District: 85
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthonia Maly 15
Maria Maly 17
Peter Maly 45
Theresia Maly 35
Wenceslaus Maly 21

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 13:44




greyghost u beat me!
just found him in 1909 -alone


Vermont, St. Albans Canad...rder Crossings, 1895-1954 (M1464) Manifests of Pass...Atlantic Ports, 1895-1954 Roll 92, vol 56-57, Feb-Mar 1909

Name Wenseslaus Maly
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1909
Event Place Vermont, United States
Gender Male
Age 45
Birth Year (Estimated) 1864
Birth Country Austria


but no idea why or where wife is -really odd

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 13:47

thank you greyghost and maddie -its obvious he got around a bit -and there is some truth in the family talk then! will keep trying to dig.x

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Feb 2016 13:47

Also on Family search with original documents
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKQM-N4VN

Gives Place of birth as Casalau, Bohemia and last permanent address as Montreal. Going to Buffalo, New York. Also says was in Cleveland, Ohio from 1907-1908. There is a short description of him

Wenseslaus Maly
Vermont, St. Albans Canadian Border Crossings
Name Wenseslaus Maly
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1895-1924
Event Place Vermont, United States
Gender Male
Age 45
Birth Country Austria

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2016 13:48

?????????? a tailor, or a different person

Waureslaus Maly

in the 1910 United States Federal Census
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Name: Waureslaus Maly
[Wenceslaus Maly]
Age in 1910: 47
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Austria
Home in 1910: Detroit Ward 1, Wayne, Michigan
Street: Bater St
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1907
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Austria
Mother's Birthplace: Austria
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Tailor
Industry: Merchant Tailor
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 17
Out of Work: N
Number of weeks out of work: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John F Odonnell 51
Jennie Odonnell 38
Florence M Odonnell 16
Gertrude J Odonnell 13
Marion F Odonnell 7
Constance M Odonnell 4
Matthew Mccormick 48
John G Lonk 19
Frank Hasher 19
Harry Malanhor 20
Creston C Pine 22
James Elefterui 31
Nicholas Elefteri 43
Barceli Elefterui 30
Wilbur D Rue 24
Waureslaus Maly 47
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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 13:59

ooh Madddie that looks really intersting -the story is supposed to be that he went to america to sell his handmade goods for a better life- the idea being the family would follow -but it didnt so they never did -so this is
beginning to look likely

thank you so much for your help -ive been at it hours and really not found much by myself. I was just using ancestry and free bmd- havent done much for a while and i forget all the different places to look.

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2016 13:59

in case you dont have it


1939 Register Transcription

Household (1 Person) International Sportsmens Club, Grosvenor House Park Lane, London , City of Westminster, London, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Sidney F Maly 04 Mar 1900 Male Club Lounge Waiter Married 1 48


Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2016 14:05

Theresia Maley in 1880
Name: Tersie Molley
[Tersie Maly]
[Teresia Maly]
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Bohemia
Home in 1880: Skull Creek, Butler, Nebraska
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Peater Molley
Father's Birthplace: Bohemia
Mother's Birthplace: Bohemia
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Housekeeper
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Peater Molley 39
Tersie Molley 30
James Molley 16
Mary Molley 12
Antonie Molley 10
Frank Smrcka 7

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 14:16

oh wow! no i didn't have any of that.
Sidney is the direct link - I was told the rest of the family were evacuated so makes sense hes on his own.

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 14:18

can anybody see his death anywhere? im wondering if he ever came back as i cant find anything! ive been searching but hes elusive

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2016 14:24

can't see one sorry

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 14:28

no stranger and stranger the more you look! and his wife just seems have to disppeared too -but not with him!
have to go now -but thatnks everyone for help xx

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2016 14:34

SIDNEY F
Last name MALY
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1926
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ SIDNEY F MALY married
ELIZABETH DUNFORD
Spouse's last name DUNFORD
District MARYLEBONE
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 994
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


First name(s) SIDNEY F
Last name MALY
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1901
Age 65
Death quarter 1
Death year 1966
District KENSINGTON
County London
Volume 5C
Page 843
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 19 Feb 2016 14:42

thanks i have everything on from there about Sid - so please dont waste your time looking for me .

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2016 15:59

Wenceslaus Maly

in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995
Name: Wenceslaus Maly
Residence Year: 1908
Street address: 2214 E 21st SE
Residence Place: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Occupation: Tailor
Publication Title: Cleveland, Ohio, City Directory, 1908