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Londonbelle - very interesting will check it out. thank you

Wonder if Elizabeth did remarry ?

Marriages Sep 1896
>>Biddle Elizabeth Lichfield 6b 751
Leigh Albert Lichfield 6b 751
Morecroft Isabel Charlotte M Lichfield 6b 751
>>Robins John Lichfield 6b 751

Here is a 1901 census for Elizabeth and John Robins

Name: Elizabeth Robins
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: John Robins
Birth Place: Newport, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Rugeley
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Ecclesiastical parish: Rugeley St Augustine
Town: Rugeley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Rugeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2659
Folio: 63
Page Number: 30
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members:
Name Age
John Robins 70 b Little Horwood, Staffordshire, occ Coal Agent
Elizabeth Robins 60
Sarah Robinson 58 b St Thomas, Stafford, Sister in law, widow,

thanks to Londonbelle and also Rambling Rose but regarding death of John Biddle 1901 age 30 I am wondering if this is him for approx. 3 years out on age. Coincidence is that I found a death for Elizabeth(mother) also 1901. Will search further if any children to John and wife Anne.

I'm wondering whether this is John Edward's Baptism..... the surname on the image is Biddulph (perhaps that is how the Vicar heard the surname Biddle) but interestingly the address is County Road and Joseph's occ is a Porter the same as that on the 1871 Census for Joseph

First name(s) John Edward
Last name Biddulph
Baptism year 1868
Baptism date 07 Jun 1868
Baptism place Stafford, Christ Church
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's Occupation: Porter
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Address: County Road
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3387/1
Page 163
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

More details on the Marriage of Joseph Biddle to Elizabeth Rowley

Marriage: 1 May 1866, Parish of Brewood
Groom: Joseph Biddle, Bachelor, full age, occupation Footman, Abode Chillington
Father: Edward Biddle occ Gardener
Bride: Elizabeth Rowley, Spinster, full age, occ Servant, Abode Chillington
Father: John Rowley, occ Labourer

Witnesses: John Rowley & Mary Roberts

is it possible that Elizabeth married again? She was still only about 40 in 1881.

Could she have married under her maiden name??

from freebmd .............

Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
Blower Arthur Wellington, Sh. 6a 1531
Griffiths John Henry Wellington Sh. 6a 1531
PARKES Martha Wellington Sal 6a 1531
Rowley Elizabeth Wellington, Sh. 6a 1531

Wellington is the Registration District that includes Newport



EDIT:- NO NO

A Public Family Tree has John Henry Griffiths married to Elizabeth Rowley ....... b. Oct 1870, Wellington, parents John Rowley and Louisa Crump.

Marriage Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Spouse's Surname Spouse's Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Region Registers At Reference Order Online Adjacent Entries
BIDDLE John E BAGNALL Annie 1891 Castle Town, St Andrew's Mission Church - (St Thomas) Staffordshire Newcastle-Under-Lyme CE5/1/201

1881 for Elizabeth and John
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Newport, Shropshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Biddle Head Widow Female 40 1841 Dressmaker Newport, Shropshire, England
John Biddle Son Single Male 12 1869 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England

believe correct in Elizabeth marrying Joseph Biddle in 1866 in Staffordshire and also correct later living in Newport Shropshire with her son John Edward Biddle. But still trying to ascertain what happened to Elizabeth and John Edward after 1891. Not to sure if jOhn wed in 1891 to an ann bagnall in penkridge.

possible?


Deaths Mar 1901 (>99%)

Biddle John 30 Birmingham 6d 140

Warwickshire Burials Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Biddle
Birth year -
Death year 1901
Burial year 1901
Cemetery Witton cemetery
Place Birmingham, Witton cemetery
County Warwickshire
Country England
Registry reference 220170
URL http://bmsgh-shop.org.uk/BIRM-Cemeteries
Source Warwickshire, Birmingham Burials, 1836-2010
Record set Warwickshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

More details on the possible death for Joseph

Shropshire burials Transcription

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Biddle
Birth year 1838
Death year 1873
Death date ? ? 1873
Age 35
Burial year 1873
Burial date 08 Apr 1873
Burial place Newport
Denomination Anglican
County Shropshire
Archive refererence P207/A/4/2
Page 172
Register type Burial
Register date range 1846-1878
Record set

? Joseph death?

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name BIDDLE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1838
Age 35
Death quarter 2
Death year 1873
District NEWPORT (SHROPSHIRE)
County Shropshire
Volume 6A
Page 523
Country England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mount Pleasant, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Ed Biddle Head Single Male 22 1869 Police Constable Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Biddle Mother Widow Female 50 1841 - Newport, Shropshire, England

Elizabeth also shown as Married

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Newport, Shropshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Rowley Head - Male 67 1804 - Staffordshire, England
Mary Rowley Wife - Female 68 1803 - Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Biddle Daughter - Female 34 1837 - Shropshire, England
John E Biddle Grandson - Male 3 1868 - Staffordshire, England

just for my ref

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mount Pleasant, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


John Ed Biddle Head Single Male 22 1869 Police Constable Stafford, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Biddle Mother Widow Female 50 1841 - Newport, Shropshire, England Transcription

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
County Road, St Mary, Stafford, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Biddle Head - Male 34 1837 - Staffordshire, England Porter in County InfirmaryInfirmary
Edward Biddle Father - Male 77 1794 - Staffordshire, England Former Ag Lab
Edward Biddle Brother - Male 41 1830 - Staffordshire, England Former Ag Lab

All born Boscomoor, Penkridge. Joseph said to be married

BE CAREFUL ........

This is another John Edward .......

a Public Family Tree on ancestry has a John Edward Biddle, but born in July quarter 1869 in Middlesex, and with parents John Biddle and Sabina Roberts

There is also a John E Biddle born in Glamorgan in ca 1869

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866

ROWLEY Elizabeth BIDDLE Joseph Brewood, St Mary Newcastle-Under-Lyme C5/1/31

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Newport, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Biddle Head Widow Female 40 1841 Dressmaker Newport, Shropshire, England
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John Biddle Son Single Male 12 1869 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1868

BIDDLE John Edward Stafford Newcastle-Under-Lyme ROWLEY STD/27/408