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W.H.M. Roberts

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JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 5 Jun 2016 19:01

Sheila you can order birth certificates and specify that the mother's surname must be Cole

I forget whether there is a partial charge or no charge if no matching birth is found

you could try the ones mentioned by Gins for instance

Births Jun 1904
Roberts Male Bristol 6a 169

Births Sep 1904
Roberts Male Bristol 6a 38

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 5 Jun 2016 18:47

Sheila, consider the death record I posted for William Henry Major

that looks like him to me ... there is no William Henry Major birth to match that info

the certificate might give the name, relationship and address of a family member who was the informant


... no wait ... that death was more likely this birth, given the location

Births Jun 1905
Major William Harry Horncastle 7a 555

back to the drawing board


your husband's parent was a child of the Major-Cole marriage and thus younger than WHM Roberts? ... but never knew that uncle?

in that case it might seem likely that he died in childhood ...

malyon

malyon Report 5 Jun 2016 18:27

could this be him can't find any marriage in this name and not in the 1911 census
shepton m is in somerset

Births Dec 1905
Coward William Henry M Shepton M. 5c 380

Sheila

Sheila Report 5 Jun 2016 17:44

Thank you all for your replies.
Apart from sending for numerous birth certificates(expensive!) I do not think that I will ever find him.

He would have been my husband's uncle.

Sheila

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 5 Jun 2016 16:47

Name: William Henry Major ?
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1905
Date of Registration: Jun 1976
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Boston
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1239

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 5 Jun 2016 16:43

however that appears to be this child in 1911

the page has been partially destroyed so that birth places do not show

however there are indications of Welsh origin, e.g. servants named Hughes, Davies and Jones, and given names including Blodwen and Gwen

Name: William Herbert Mervyn Roberts
Age in 1911: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Kensington
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: ? Kensington
Registration district: Kensington

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 5 Jun 2016 16:40

Name: William Herbert M Roberts
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1906
Date of Registration: Jul 1990
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Horsham
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 1808

registered Q1 1907

ROBERTS William Herbert M St. Asaph 11b 293

safc

safc Report 5 Jun 2016 16:36


William H M Roberts on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Household (1 Person) Bryn Gwenallt , Abergele U.D., Denbighshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William H M Roberts 23 Nov 1906 Male Musician Composer & Accomp? Single 31 27

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 5 Jun 2016 16:28

I would suspect that the "M" in his name stood for Mayor, the surname of the boarder in the household

and that possibly both Julia and her son went by that surname

actually although it does look like Mayor in 1911, it was C A Major

Marriages Mar 1929
Major Clarence A Roberts Birmingham S. 6d 394
Roberts Julia K Major Birmingham S. 6d 394


... as yes, as Sheila knew but didn't mention

Sheila

Sheila Report 5 Jun 2016 16:26

Gins,

I also thought that there was different father because Julia went on to marry C.A. Major ( 1911). in Birmingham.
I have searched using the surname Major.

Sheila

malyon

malyon Report 5 Jun 2016 16:24


Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)

Roberts Ellen Kate 0 Gloucester 6a 206

malyon

malyon Report 5 Jun 2016 16:21



Wm A Roberts

England and Wales Census, 1891

Name Wm A Roberts
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Gloucestershire
Parish Barton St Mary
Ecclesiastical Parish ALL SAINTS
Registration District Gloucester
Residence Note Turnstile Alley
Gender Male
Age 22
Marital Status Married
Occupation Engine Cleaner
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Birthplace Herefordshire, England
Page Number 15
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 2017/ 68



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Wm A Roberts Head M 22 Herefordshire, England
Julia K Roberts Wife F 20 Warwickshire, England
Ellen K Roberts Daughter F 5M Gloucestershire, England

safc

safc Report 5 Jun 2016 16:20

????

Marriages Mar 1922 (>99%)
HARDING Frances W Hawkey Liskeard 5c 89
Hawkey Sidney Harding Liskeard 5c 89
KELLY Phyllis M Roberts Liskeard 5c 89
ROBERTS William H M Kelly Liskeard 5c 89 xxxxxxxxxxx

Gee

Gee Report 5 Jun 2016 16:17

There is a possibility that either of these registrations could have been William H M


Births Jun 1904
Roberts Male Bristol 6a 169 Scan available - click to view


Births Sep 1904
Roberts Male Bristol 6a 38

Another possibility is that his birth was registered in another name, say if Julia had a child by another man

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jun 2016 16:15

This is the only possible birth entry that I can find:-

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name ROBERTS
Birth year 1904
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BRISTOL
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 187
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

Perhaps his middle names were given to him at baptism?

Kath. x

malyon

malyon Report 5 Jun 2016 16:10



William Albert Roberts

England and Wales Census, 1901

Name William Albert Roberts
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
County Gloucestershire
Civil Parish Gloucester
Ecclesiastical Parish All Saints
Sub-District South Hamlet
Registration District Gloucester
Residence Note Magdala Road
Gender Male
Age 32
Occupation Railway Engine Stoker
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Birthplace Hereford
Schedule Type 71
Page Number 10



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

William Albert Roberts Head M 32 Hereford
Julia Kate Roberts Wife F 30 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Albert Charles Roberts Son M 7 Gloucester

Sheila

Sheila Report 5 Jun 2016 15:56

Malyon,

She was b.1871 Birmingham

Sheila

Sheila

Sheila Report 5 Jun 2016 15:53

Andy,

I have found the entry for W.H.W. Roberts. His parents were Sydney Charles and Lillian Roberts.

That is the correct marriage entry.

Sheila

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jun 2016 15:45

Might be marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
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Cole Julia Kate Gloucester 6a 346
Roberts William Albert Gloucester 6a 346


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jun 2016 15:42

There is this....

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
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Roberts William Henry W Bristol 6a 63


Not quite

Andy