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Ancestry of Watson/Irving Families.

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Terence

Terence Report 21 Jul 2016 09:37

Thanks for that,PricklyHolly.Another piece to the Jigsaw.
Cheers,Terry L.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jul 2016 09:00

Thomas Irving in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name:Thomas Irving
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Carlisle
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 726

Thomas Irving
Isabella Mein


Thomas Donald Irving in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Thomas Donald Irving
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 11 Mar 1866
Baptism Place: Upperby, Cumberland, England
Father: Robert Irving
Mother: Jane
FHL Film Number: 1472356
Reference ID: item 16 p 4

Terence

Terence Report 20 Jul 2016 11:33

Again,a big thank you to all researchers.I'm just about to go through it all and print up for my Sister-in -Law to look through.
Many thanks,Terry L..

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Jul 2016 05:58


First name(s) LILY
Last name WATSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1892
Age 75
Death quarter 3
Death year 1967
District HARTLEPOOL
County Durham
Volume 1A
Page 910
Country England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Jul 2016 05:50

????
1939 register

Watson Household (3 People)
18 Greenland Cottages , West Hartlepool C.B., Durham, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Lily Watson 18 May 1891 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Richard Watson 22 Sep 1889 Permanent Way Ganger (Heavy Worker)
Norman Watson 17 Nov 1924 Wood Machinist Labourer
Ref: RG101/2734F/024/8 Letter Code: FEBJ
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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Jul 2016 22:19

Here you go........

Lely Irving in the 1901 England Census
Name: Lely Irving
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Farlam, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Farlam
Ecclesiastical parish: Farlam St Thomas a Beckett
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Brampton
Sub-registration district: Brampton

Household Members:

John Thompson 47
Edward Thompson 36
Jane A Thompson 24
Mary E Thompson 23
Lely Irving 9

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Jul 2016 22:14

Actually no Mel

If you check the 1901 census, that Lily (Transcribed as Lely) Irvine appears age 9........Niece to John Thompson.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 19 Jul 2016 21:15

Prickles do you think this may be her on the 1911 down as Neice.

Name: Lily Irving
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Low Bow Bank, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Farlam
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County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address: Low Bow Bank Brampton Jun Carlisle
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Milliner*******************************************
Registration district: Brampton
Registration District Number: 572
Sub-registration district: Brampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 31266
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thompson 57
Edward Thompson 46
Thomas Thompson 39
Jane Ann Thompson 34
Mary Lize Thompson 33
Lily Irving 19*********************************
Jane Reay 73

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Jul 2016 20:10

Hmmm, I wonder where Lily is in 1911.

She does not appear to be with her parents.

Terence

Terence Report 19 Jul 2016 19:21

P.S.The supposed marriage in Hartlepool was my mistake.Sorry!
Terry L.

Terence

Terence Report 19 Jul 2016 19:19

Once again researchers,a brilliant bit of work.Will read thro' it all and put together
something for my SIL.
Thank you,Terry L.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Jul 2016 18:46

I am guessing that Richard was later baptised with the middle name of "Grant"

I am liking the 1912 birth for Isabella Watson......as that was the name of Lily's mother.

malyon

malyon Report 19 Jul 2016 18:39

there is a Richard Watson born penrith but no middle name


Births Dec 1889 (>99%)

Watson Richard Penrith 10b 421

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Jul 2016 18:35

Going back to the 1901 census I posted for Lily Irving with parents.... Thomas D Irving and Isabella........

Here is the family in 1911

Richard Grant Wats in the 1911 England Census
Name: Richard Grant Wats
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Boarder
Birth Place: Penrith, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address: 5 Harold Street
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Grocery Warehouseman
Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district:St Cuthbert

Household Members:

Thomas Donald Irving 45
Isabella Irving 44
Margaret Irving 24
William Irving 21
Almina Irving 18
Mary Irving 15
Thomas Donald Irving 13
John Irving 11
Albert Irving 9
Lelina Irving 7
George Irving 5
Herry Irving 3
Isabella Irving 7/12
Richard Grant Wats 21 <<<<<<

If you check out the image..........the ink is smeared and I think Richard Grant Wats is actually Richard Grant Watson.

malyon

malyon Report 19 Jul 2016 18:05



Richard Grant Watsono

England and Wales Census, 1911

Name Richard Grant Watsono
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Cumberland
Parish Carlisle
Sub-District St Cuthbert
Registration District Carlisle
Gender Male
Age 21
Birthplace Penrith, Cumberland
Record Type Household

malyon

malyon Report 19 Jul 2016 17:53

these could be Richard and lily's children


Births Sep 1911 (>99%)

Watson Florence Irving Carlisle 10b 1125 Scan available - click to view




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Births Mar 1912 (>99%)

Watson Isabella Irving Carlisle 10b 1118 Scan available - click to view


Births Jun 1914 (>99%)

WATSON Doris Irving Hartlepool 10a 238

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 19 Jul 2016 17:45

Could this be his death??

Name: Richard G Watson
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Mar 1956
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: West Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 1292


Name: Doris Watson
Mother's Maiden Name: Irving
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hartlepool
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 238


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Jul 2016 17:33

???


Births Sep 1891 (>99%)
Irving Lily Carlisle 10b 511


Lily Irving in the 1901 England Census
Name: Lily Irving
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Thomas D Irving
Mother: Isabella Irving
Birth Place: Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Botchergate
Ecclesiastical parish: Upperby
Town: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert

Household Members:

Thomas D Irving 35
Isabella Irving 34
Margt J Irving 14
Robert Irving 13
William Irving 11
Lily Irving 9
Almira Irving 8
Mary E Irving 5
Thomas D Irving 3
John Irving 1



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Jul 2016 17:27

I'm not seeing a Richard Grant Watson on any census records.

Does your SIL have any idea where or when he was born?

Or where and when he died?

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Jul 2016 17:21

??????

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1 Church Lane Stanwix Carlisle, Stanwix, Cumberland, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Susannah Irving Head Widow Female Charwoman 54 1857 Cumberland Abbergtown
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John Irving Son Single Male Bricklayer 34 1877 Cumberland Stanwix
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Alfred Irving Son Single Male Moulder Iron 19 1892 Cumberland Stanwix
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Lily Irving Daughter Single Female Check Clerk 17 1894 Cumberland Stanwix
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James Irving Son Single Male Drapers Errand Boy 15 1896 Cumberland Stanwix
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Thomas Irving Son - Male School 13 1898 Cumberland Stanwix
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Ada Parker Grandchild - Female - 3 1908 Cape Colony Wymberg
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George Costello Boarder Single Male Compositor 25 1886 Cumberland Carlisle
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Census details
First name(s) Lily
Last name Irving
Relationship Daughter
Marital status Single
Sex Female
Occupation Check Clerk
Age 17
Birth year 1894
Birth place Cumberland Stanwix
Address 1 Church Lane Stanwix Carlisle
Parish Stanwix
County Cumberland
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Carlisle
Registration district number 574
Enumeration district 1
District number -
Sub district Stanwix
Sub district number 4
Census reference RG14PN31338 RG78PN1798 RD574 SD4 ED1 SN116
Piece number 31338
Folio -
Page -
Other household member first name(s) ADA, ALFRED, GEORGE, JAMES, JOHN, LILY, SUSANNAH, THOMAS
Other household member last name PARKER, IRVING, COSTELLO
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

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