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1911 Census lookups ONLY Please

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Ann

Ann Report 13 Aug 2016 19:04

Thank you mgnv interesting reading :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Aug 2016 16:24


Births Mar 1841 (>99%)
Singleton Matilda Morpeth 25 319

Births Mar 1843 (>99%)
Singleton John Morpeth 25 322

1841 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-7KN
Joseph Milburn M 40-44
Cathrine Milburn F 40-44
Isabella Milburn F 10
Ann Shields F 65-69 Durham
Thos Steward M 30-34
Joseph Singleton M 25-29 Durham
Cathrine Singleton F 20-24
Matilda Singleton F 0 Durham
[The northern part of Northunberland plus a few other scattered parishes were detached bits of Co Durham until 1844]

Marriages Jun 1838 (>99%)
CLARK Ann Newcastle on Tyne 25 408
DOUGLASS Catharine Newcastle on Tyne 25 408
DOUGLASS Catherine Newcastle on Tyne 25 408
HATFIELD Daniel Newcastle on Tyne 25 408
HUME John Newcastle On Tyne 25 408
LEE William Nelson Newcastle upon Tyne 25 408
ROBINSON Eleanor Newcastle on Tyne 25 408
SINGLETON Joseph Newcastle on Tyne 25 408
White Dorothy Newcastle on Tyne 25 408

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6GV-WLF
Name Joseph Singleton
Spouse's Name Cathrine Douglas
Event Date 1838
Event Place Newcastle Upon Tyne, St.Nicholas, Northumberland, England
Father's Name John Singleton
Spouse's Father's Name Thomas Douglas

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These are (mostly) the URLs to stuff already posted - but they can have image links.

Marr https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XDN2-G8S

1860 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCGF-5NL [with image link]
[Image just gives him the single Initial of J]
1870 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6KY-59P [with image link]
[Sandusky is on L Erie; Norwalk is abt 20km to the SW]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X6HB-BFX [with image link]
Name Eliza A. Allan
Event Type Birth
Event Date 25 Jan 1872
Event Place , Erie, Ohio, United States
Gender Female
Race White
Father's Name Thos. Allan
Mother's Name Mathilda Singleton

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VN7G-5PS [with image link]
Event Place Sandusky, Erie, Ohio, United States

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As you may know, the UK nominal census day was 6/6/1841, and some Sunday (at midnight) at the end of March, beg of April in 1851-1911.
The US nominal census day was 1st June for 1830-1900.

The census had to be conducted in different ways.
In both censuses, an enumeration district was given to one one enumerator.

In the UK, this was supposed to be limited to a maximum distance travelled on the walk of 15 miles.
In the UK, it was more efficient to have the enumerator do the walk at least twice.
In the week before the census, he'ld go round and drop off census forms for folk to fill out, then on the Monday after census day, he'ld go round and pick up the filled in forms, checking them to make sure they were done OK, and helping folk fill them out when necessary.
He might have to revisit some houses if they were out on the Monday.
When he'd done that, he copied all the forms onto a census summary sheet. Thru 1901, the original completed forms were then destroyed, and only the summary sheets were kept.

In the US, especially out west, an enumerators walk could cover 1000sq miles in some cases, so just visiting every house once could take weeks.
So, starting after census day, the enumerator visited each house, and asked the questions at the threshold (or the kitchen table in some more rural areas), and he filled out the answers.
The actual day a h/h was visited was often written in the page header.

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Aug 2016 09:20

Ann - Your initial post says:
"James Lewis Laithwaite b: 1871 Turton, Lancashire possibly married either Clara Maude Allan(possible sister of Elizabeth Alice Allen) or Lillie Sarah Chalmers"

It looks to me like you've seen this hit from the GRO index:

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
Allan Clara Maude Bolton 8c 533
Bendall John Joseph Bolton 8c 533
CHALMERS Lillie Sarah Bolton 8c 533
LAITHWAITE James Lewis Bolton 8c 533

but you were unaware of the existence of local indexes.
As you may lnow, one can buy BMD certs thru the local rego office that holds the original registers (except for official marr rego's that were held by each church)
One can also buy BMD certs thru the GRO who hold copies of all the local rego's.
(One can also buy m.certs from the church, if it's in their current rego. Their old rego's are usually deposited in some archive - typically the county records office.
The point of that was that some local indexes are (at least partly) online - see:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

What's of interest here is:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ALLAN Clara M LAITHWAITE James L Bradshaw, St Maxentius Bolton 22/2/35

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4679264

The local office organizes their records differently from the GRO, so the local ref gives difft info from the GRO's ref.
Most local refs have 3 elements:
1) a church or subdistrict code - they may not tell you code 22 is for Bradshaw, St Maxentius, but this index does.
For a birth or death, they may not tell you ASPL is the code for Aspull subdistrict - this one does, although it's guessable.
2) the 2nd element is a sequence number for the register, sequenced within the code 1 set.
3) the last element is a page or entry number Bolton & Wigan both use entry numbers.
Most local indexes use entry #s for marrs, so one knows who wed whom, even when they use page #s for Bs and Ds - e.g., Manchester.

As an aside, is I want to search FreeBMD or LancsBMD for just events occurring in Wigan or Bolton RDs, you can click on Bolton, then click on Wigan, but hold the Ctrl key down when clickin onthe second, third etc locations.
For dates in Lancs BMD, this works too for isolated years, but if I want to search 1837-1861, say, click on 1837, then hold the shift key down when I click on 1861.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1788853?collectionNameFilter=false
FS has some parish rego's online. The collection
England, Manchester, Parish Registers, 1603-1910
Includes some Bolton churches, viz

Bolton, All Souls
Bolton, St James
Deansgate, St John
Farnworth with Kearsley, St. John The Evangelist
Farnworth, St Peter
Great Lever, St Bartholomew
Great Lever, St Michael
Halliwell, St Thomas
Heywood, St James
Heywood, St Luke
Horwich, Holy Trinity
Little Hulton, St John the Baptist
Radcliffe, St Mary
Spotland, St Clement
Turton, St Anne
Westhoughton, St James

Last time I checked, the collection was not fully indexed, so sometimes one has to "browse the images".
Knowing the entry number one is after is a big help in locating images of the original marr rego's.

Another useful resource for Bolton is:

http://www.bolton.gov.uk/website/pages/Burials.aspx
We operate seven cemeteries, these can be found in:
Astley Bridge (Eden Street, Astley Bridge, Bolton, BL1 6NU)
Blackrod (Manchester Rd, Blackrod, Bolton BL6 5LS)
Farnworth (Cemetery Road, Farnworth, Bolton, BL4 7QY)
Heaton (Gilnow Rd, Bolton BL1 4LH)
Horwich, AKA Ridgmont (Chorley Old Road, Horwich, Bolton, BL6 6BD)
Tonge (Cemetery Road, Bolton, Lancashire BL2 6AG)
Westhoughton (Cemetery Street, Westhoughton, Bolton, BL5 2BG)

From Deceasedonline
All 415,000 burial and cremation records for Bolton Council in the county of Lancashire, North West England are available online. There are seven cemeteries and one crematorium.
http://tinyurl.com/jjs5fm9

If this is your Thos:
1851 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG56-DVY
Event Place Borough And Township Of Wigan, Lancashire, England
Registration District Wigan
Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 2199 / 876 Page Number 47
Richard Allan Head M 33 Haigh, Lancashire
Alice Allan Wife F 35 Norwich, Lancashire
Thomas Allan Son M 13 Aspull, Lancashire
Walter Allan Son M 11 Darcy Lever, Lancashire
William Allan Son M 0 Wigan, Lancashire
[Horwich seems more likely than Norwich, but I've not seen the image]

then the following is relevant [NB Haigh village is just 1km from Aspull village, and both are in the Aspull subdistrict of Wigan RD]

[I've appended the quarter of registration]
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1837[38q1] ALLAN Thomas Elisha Aspull Wigan & Leigh SUMNER ASPL/1/115
1839q3 ALLAN William S[Sumner] Lever Bolton SUMNER LEV/1/481
1850q3 ALLAN William Edward Wigan Wigan & Leigh SUMNER WIG/29/375

It would seem that William 1839 was renamed as Walter.
There is a provision on b.certs for the name to be changed within 6 m - see col 10 of a b.cert.
Actually, under English common law, all that was necessary for a legal change of name is that one starts using the new name, and that there be no fraudulent purpose.
My niece took this route when she took on her stepdad's surname, i.e., my bro's surname.
My bro said people love to see a bit of paper - it makes life easier when changing school records etc.
He said the cheapest thing he could do was place an ad in the local paper saying Mary X would be known as Mary Y from such and such a date.
He bought several copies of the newspaper, and xeroxed the ad several times.
He said it made life easier and was worth the few quid the ad and papers cost.
Of course as William/Walter was a minor (as was my niece), the decision was really up to the parent or guardian.

As one might guess, Richard and Alice wed before civil registration began.

This is also a useful site:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 28 Aug 1836 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
Richard Allan - Agent to Earl Balcarres, the Parish of Wigan
Alice Sumner - Spinster, this Parish [Deane]
Witness: Abrm. Boardman; John Watmough; Eliza Sumner
Married by Licence by: Thomas Bowman Curate
Register: Marriages 1833 - 1837, Page 203, Entry 607
Source: LDS Film 2113070
[There were 39 marrs 15/8/1836-24/10/1836. Abrm. Boardman is a witnes on all of these - I would consider him to be a "professional witness"]

Ann

Ann Report 9 Aug 2016 14:51

Thank you choccy and safc
plenty of info to work on :-)

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:50


1860 US Census Transcription
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
J L Singleton Male 47 1813 England
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Catharine Singleton Female 40 1820 England
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Matilda Singleton Female 19 1841 England
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John Singleton Male 17 1843 England
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Census details
First name(s) Matilda
Last name Singleton
Gender Female
Age 19
Birth year 1841
Birth place England
Race -
Residence , Huron, Ohio
Location Huron, Ohio
City/township Norwalk Village
County Huron
State Ohio
NARA series M653
Record set US Census 1860
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from United States

Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

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j l singleton is a boilermaker

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:44


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
311, Tonge Moor Road, Bolton, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Allan Head Married Male 65 1836 Steam Engine Fitter (Retired) Haigh, Lancashire, England
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Matilda Allan Wife Married Female 60 1841 - Bedlington, Northumberland, England
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Clara M Allan Daughter Single Female 24 1877 - Harwich, Lancashire, England
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James R Allan Son Single Male 21 1880 Steam Engine Fitter Russia

Ann

Ann Report 9 Aug 2016 14:40

Interesting the family must have traveled to Russia in or around 1880 worth an investigation at sometime

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:38


Matilda Singleton
mentioned in the record of Thomas Allan and Matilda Singleton
Name Thomas Allan
Spouse's Name Matilda Singleton
Event Date 22 Mar 1864
Event Place Huron,Ohio

Ann

Ann Report 9 Aug 2016 14:36

Thank you safc for the US Census information

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:28


1870 US Census Transcription
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Allen Male 30 1840 England
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Matilda Allen Female 25 1845 England
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Thomas S Allen Male 3 1867 Ohio
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Charlotte M Allen Female 2 1868 Ohio
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Joseph Allen Male 0 1870 Ohio
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Census details
First name(s) Charlotte M
Last name Allen
Gender Female
Age 2
Birth year 1868
Birth place Ohio
Race White
Residence Ohio, United States
City/township Sandusky, ward 1
County Erie
State Ohio
Record set US Census 1870
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from United States


thomas allen works in machine shop

Choccy

Choccy Report 9 Aug 2016 14:27



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

29 Tower View Bromley Cross, Turton, Lancashire, England


James Lewis Laithwaite Head - Male Foreman Cloth Dyer 40 1871 Turton Lancs

Clara Maud Laithwaite Wife - Female - 34 1877 Horwick Lancs


No children born


safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:21

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ALLAN Clara M Horwich Bolton SINGLETON HOR/13/8

Ann

Ann Report 9 Aug 2016 14:20

Thank you safc for the childs death info

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:19


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
West Street, Sharples, Bolton, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charlotte M Allen Head Single Female 22 1869 Own Means United States
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Elizabeth A Allen Sister Single Female 19 1872 Own Means United States
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Clara M Allen Sister - Female 14 1877 Scholar Horwich, Lancashire, England
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James R Allen Brother - Male 11 1880 Scholar Russia

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:17

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1897
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
LAITHWAITE Percy 0 Turton Bolton TUR/14/310

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:17

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1897
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
LAITHWAITE Percy Turton Bolton ALLAN TUR/24/156

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:14


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Rigby Lane, Turton, Bolton, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Vincent W Laithwaite Head Married Male 34 1867 Survevoy To Urban Distc Council Harewood, Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth A Laithwaite Wife Married Female 29 1872 - -
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Nora Laithwaite Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Lancashire, England

Ann

Ann Report 9 Aug 2016 14:14

Thank you

safc

safc Report 9 Aug 2016 14:13

2 children born 1 living 1 has died

Ann

Ann Report 9 Aug 2016 14:06

scfc
On the 1911 Census for Vincent does it say how many children born?

Thanks you