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Missing the birth of Nancy Stoner 1909

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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Sep 2016 08:44

Of course it was Marries- don't think I was firing on all cylinders!

I think I have it!

Was looking at this death- was thinking it could be Alice Pearl E?

First name(s) ALICE P E
Last name STONER
Gender Female
Birth year 1900
Age 29
Death quarter 1
Death year 1929
District PANCRAS
County London
Volume 1B Page 200
Country England
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Although she married as Cawley, we know from the 1939 register that her daughter was brought up with the name McCawley. So searching for Alice McCawley took me back to Frank McCawley and Annie Swift:

National School Admission Registers & Log-books

First name(s) Alice
Last name Mccawley
Birth year 1899
Birth date 04 Jun 1899
Event year 1908
School name Chichester Central School
Town Chichester
County Sussex
Country England
Parent name(s) Mccawley Frank
Book type Admissions

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Sep 2016 08:49

Alice is in the workhouse infirmary in 1911, that's why I didn't see her with family:

1911:
First name(s) Alice
Last name McCawley
Relationship Inmate
Sex Female
Age 11
Birth year 1900
Birth place Sussex Eastbourne
Address Eastbourne
Parish Eastbourne
County Sussex
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Eastbourne
Registration district number 71
Enumeration district 37
Sub district Eastbourne
Sub district number 2
Census reference RG14PN4849 RD71 SD2 ED37 SN9999
Piece number 4849
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and Alice & parents in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
66, Windsor Road, Bexhill, Battle, Sussex, England

Frank MacAulay Head Married Male 31 1870 Carpenter & Joiner Canada
Annie MacAulay Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Eastbourne, Sussex,
Alice MacAulay Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Eastbourne, Sussex,
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So, after Alice Pearl E Stoner (nee McCawley/ Cawley) died, her daughter Eileen was raised with surname McCawley with her Grandmother.

Hopefully that's another one solved :-) Although why & when she added Pearl I don't know?

Alan

Alan Report 25 Sep 2016 11:21

Charles Henry Stoner marries Pearl E Cawley in 1925, with daughter Eileen M in 1927, with mmn CAWLEY.

The 1939 transcrption (haven't seen the original) has Eileen M CLARKE (McCawley) which normally means she is currently MCCAWLEY but will later marry CLARKE which EIleen M STONER does in 1949. I would expect Eileen M CLARKE (Stoner)

Why should she be listed as McCAWLEY in 1939? Charles has remarried, allegedly as a widower. If Pearl CAWLEY was in fact Pearl McCAWLEY then Eileen is living with her grandmother. It seems Pearl's only mention is in the marriage index. I wonder whether Charles H and Pearl are visible in the Brighton Poll Books 1927-1930?

I haven't found Frank/Annie (in Ancestry) in 1901 or 1911. Any clues for me?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Sep 2016 11:26

Your post seems a repeat of mine above! Perhaps Charles disowned her when he remarried?

1901 census of Frank and Annie posted above.

this is Annie in 1911 (Alice was in the workhouse infirmary):

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13 Channel View Road Eastbourne, Eastbourne, Sussex, England

Annie McCawley Wife Married Female Laundress 35 1876 Eastbourne Sussex
Nora McCawley Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Chichester Sussex
Frank McCawley Son - Male - 4 1907 Chichester Sussex
Faith McCawley Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Eastbourne Sussex

Frank died in 1933- his military file is on Ancestry:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
McCAWLEY Frank, of 9 Chandler Road, Bexhill on Sea Sussex died 8 September 1933 at Ashdown Yard, Windsor Road, Bexhill-on-Sea Administration London to Annie McCawley widow. Effects £514 4s 8d

Alan

Alan Report 25 Sep 2016 11:28

Once again we overlapped! More soon.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Sep 2016 11:28

You could always try contacting Eileens's daughter (living in Hove), she may be able to confirm the above.

Alan

Alan Report 25 Sep 2016 11:44

Good sleuthing, AustinQ. You and Alviegal seem to have cleared up for me. Yes I'd sought out the military file but so far only glanced at Wills for Alice without success.

I have no other candidate for Alice PE Stoner and 1911 says Annie had four children.

Many thanks, Alan

Alan

Alan Report 25 Sep 2016 12:22

No sign of the P E here!
Entry from Bexhill St Barnabas 1891 - 1900
First names Alice
Surname MCCAWLEY
Sex d
Baptism Date 03-Sep
Year baptised 1899
Father first names Frank
Father surname MCCAWLEY
Mother first names Annie
Mother surname MCCAWLEY
Occupation Carpenter

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Sep 2016 12:27

Like I said, no idea why or when she added the Pearl, but (without buying certificates) I'm pretty sure she's our person.

Alan

Alan Report 27 Sep 2016 10:03

Looking back I see that I acknowledged Alviegal and AustinQ as solvers of the Nancy and Pearl E Cawley problems. I didn't mention Greyghost who suggested Annie 1908 who married Trott. A good call, had May Barbara S N E not appeared on the scene.

I had not linked her birth to the Trott marriage and can also add also that to the website, and her parents when I find them.

Thanks again to all.

Alan Stoner