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George Wallace and Jane Petrie (Scotland)

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greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Sep 2016 12:08

?? Possibly the marriage of Catherine's parents, bearing in mind the middle name of Margaret Nicol Wallace born 1884

Andrew Simpson
mentioned in the record of Andrew Simpson and Hellen Nicol
Name Andrew Simpson
Spouse's Name Hellen Nicol
Event Date 07 Aug 1830
Event Place Ferry Port On Craig,Fife,Scotland

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HOWEVER - I had to have a look on Scotland's People and the certificate for the 1856 marriage of Thomas and Catherine shows

Thomas Wallace of Milton Farm, Leuchers, Fife aged 20 Farm Servant Bachelor, son of George Wallace Farm Servant and Ann Wallace maiden name Terras

and
Catherine Simpson aged 21 of Ferry Port, Spinster d/o Andrew Simpson a Linen Weaver and Agnes Simpson maiden name Barron

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Sep 2016 12:28

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Nelson Street, Ferry Port on Craig, Cupar, Fife, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Andrew Simpson Head Married Male 59 1792 Weaver Fife, Scotland
Agnes Simpson Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Fife, Scotland
Margaret Simpson Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 Weaver Fife, Scotland
Catherine Simpson Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Weaver Fife, Scotland

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Nealson Street, Ferry Port on Craig, Fife, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Andrew Simpson Male 45 1796 Fife, Scotland
Agness Simpson Female 40 1801 Fife, Scotland
William Simpson Male 14 1827 Fife, Scotland
Christian Simpson Female 12 1829 Fife, Scotland
Margaret Simpson Female 10 1831 Fife, Scotland
Cathreian Simpson Female 6 1835 Fife, Scotland

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Sep 2016 16:11

If George Wallace's father was George, then this looks to be his baptism:-

Name: Thomas Wallace
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1836
Baptism Date: 18 Sep 1836
Baptism Place: Largo,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Wallace
Mother: Ann Terras
FHL Film Number: 1040188

(same birth place as on 1871 census)

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Sep 2016 16:17

In which case, these would be siblings:-

Name: Lucy Cowan Wallace
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1828
Baptism Date: 16 Mar 1828
Baptism Place: Newburn,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Wallace
Mother: Ann Terras
FHL Film Number: 1040169


Name: William Wallace
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 3 Mar 1830
Baptism Date: 28 Mar 1830
Baptism Place: Largo,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Wallace
Mother: Ann Ferras
FHL Film Number: 1040188


Name: Ann Wallace
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1831
Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1832
Baptism Place: Largo,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Wallace
Mother: Ann Terras
FHL Film Number: 1040188


Name: Margaret Wallace
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1834
Baptism Date: 13 Jul 1834
Baptism Place: Largo,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Wallace
Mother: Ann Terras
FHL Film Number: 1040188


Name: David Wallace
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1841
Baptism Date: 13 Oct 1841
Baptism Place: Ceres,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Wallace
Mother: Anne Terras
FHL Film Number: 1040155


Name: Robert Wallace
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1845
Baptism Date: 17 Jan 1846
Baptism Place: Kilmany,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Wallace
Mother: Ann Terras
FHL Film Number: 1040166


Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Sep 2016 16:29

George and Ann in 1851

Name: George Wallace
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1803
Relationship: Head
Spouse: Ann Wallace
Gender: Male
Where born: Carmeron, fifeshire
Parish Number: 420
Civil Parish: Cupar
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Fife
Address: Kingask Cotton
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 3A
Page: 8
Household schedule number: 32
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_86
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wallace 48
Ann Wallace 45 - 1806 born: Largo, fifeshire
David Wallace 9
Robert Wallace 5

Just the eldest children with them.

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Possible for Margaret??
Name: Margaret Wallace
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Largo, Fife
Parish Number: 443
Civil Parish: Largo
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Lundinmill
County: Fife
Occupation: House Serv
ED: 1
Page: 25
Household schedule number: 97
LINE: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_91
Household Members:
Name Age
John Millar 23
Margaret Millar 20
John Millar 6 Mo
Margaret Wallace 16

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and Ann ??
Name: Ann Wallace
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Fife, Scotland
Civil Parish: Wemyss
County: Fife
Address: Buckhaven
Parish Number: 459
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hamilla 35
Ann Wallace 10
Margaret Cargile 20

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Name: Lucy Wallace
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Largo, fifeshire
Parish Number: 448
Civil Parish: Monimail
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Fife
Address: Westhall Farm House
Occupation: General Servant
ED: 2
Page: 4
Household schedule number: 16
LINE: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_92
Household Members:
Name Age
David Dickson 63
Anne Dickson 65
May Christie 24
Lucy Wallace 22

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Sep 2016 16:31

Also this one

Name George Wallace
Gender Male
Christening Place , CUPAR, FIFE, SCOTLAND
Birth Date 25 Feb 1853
Birthplace , Cupar, Fife, Scotland
Father's Name George Wallace
Mother's Name Ann Terris

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and the marriage of George Wallace and Ann Terris
George Wallace
mentioned in the record of George Wallace and Ann Terras
Name George Wallace
Spouse's Name Ann Terras
Event Date 04 Jan 1828
Event Place Newburn,Fife,Scotland
Citing this Record
"Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910," database, FamilySearch

just in time for the birth of Lucy.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Sep 2016 16:35

Looks like you can spread your search to America!

George Wallace
mentioned in the record of Margaret Wallace Kinmond

Name George Wallace
Gender Male
Wife Anna Terrace
Daughter Margaret Wallace Kinmond
Other information in the record of Margaret Wallace Kinmond
from Michigan Death Certificates
Name Margaret Wallace Kinmond
Event Type Death
Event Date 07 Mar 1922
Event Place St Johns, Clinton, Michigan, United States
Gender Female
Age 87
Marital Status Widowed
Birth Date 18 Jun 1834
Birthplace Scotland
Birth Year (Estimated) 1835
Father's Name George Wallace
Mother's Name Anna Terrace
Citing this Record
"Michigan Death Certificates, 1921-1952," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFH8-8S6 : 12 December 2014), George Wallace in entry for Margaret Wallace Kinmond, 07 Mar 1922; citing St Johns, Clinton, Michigan, United States, Division for Vital Records and Health Statistics, Lansing; FHL microfilm 1,973,221.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Sep 2016 18:59


Margret Wallace
mentioned in the record of Alexander Kinmond and Margret Wallace
Name Alexander Kinmond
Spouse's Name Margret Wallace
Event Date 30 Dec 1870
Event Place Dundee,Angus,Scotland
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Margaret Kinmond
in the 1880 United States Federal Census

Name: Margaret Kinmond
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1880: Saint Johns, Clinton, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Alexander Kinmond (Weaver)
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Occupation: Keeping House

Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Kinmond 56
Margaret Kinmond 46
Margaret A. Kinmond 8
Alexander H. Kinmond 6

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Sep 2016 20:10

1861 finds Ann back with her parents with brother David and George (the one I forgot):-

Name: George Wallace
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ann Wallace
Gender: Male
Where born: Cameron, fifeshire
Registration Number: 433
Registration district: Kemback
Civil Parish: Kemback
County: Fife
Address: Durdom
Occupation: Cattle Feeder
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 220
LINE: 8
Roll: CSSCT1861_57
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wallace 53
Ann Wallace 56
David Wallace 19
George Wallace 9
Ann Wallace 29
Ann Ireland 2 - Relationship: Grandaughter born: Kemback, fifeshire

Grandaughter Ann looks to be the illegitimate daughter of Ann:-

Name: Ann Ireland
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1858
Birth Place: Kemback,Fife,Scotland
Father: John Ireland
Mother: Ann Wallace
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Sep 2016 20:15

1871 George and Ann are on their own:-

Name: George Wallace
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ann Wallace
Gender: Male
Where born: Cameron, fifeshire
Registration Number: 443
Registration district: Largo
Civil Parish: Largo
County: Fife
Address: Woodside
Occupation: Agr Lab
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 26
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1871_77
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wallace 63
Ann Wallace 66 - 1805 born: Largo, fifeshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Sep 2016 20:22

George states his place of birth as Cameron on all the census records, so I think I would put this one forward as the favourite for his baptism:-

Name: George Wallace
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1807
Baptism Place: Cameron,Fife,Scotland
Father: William Wallace
Mother: Margaret Morice
FHL Film Number: 1040151
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possible siblings for above George:-

NAME: Christian Wallace
MOTHER: Margaret Morris
FATHER: William Wallace
BIRTH: 16 Nov 1804
BAPTISM: 25 Nov 1804 - Cameron,Fife,Scotland


NAME: Agnes Wallace
MOTHER: Margaret Morris
FATHER: William Wallace
BIRTH: 28 Jul 1806
BAPTISM: 3 Aug 1806 - Cameron,Fife,Scotland


NAME: Thomas Wallace
MOTHER: Margaret Morice
FATHER: William Wallace
BIRTH: 16 Sep 1810
BAPTISM: 23 Sep 1810 - Dairsie,Fife,Scotland


NAME: Catherine Wallace
MOTHER: Margaret Morice
FATHER: William Wallace
BIRTH: 16 Feb 1814
BAPTISM: 27 Feb 1814 - Cameron,Fife,Scotland


NAME: Robert Wallace
MOTHER: Margaret Morice
FATHER: William Wallace
BIRTH: 1 Jul 1816
BAPTISM: 14 Jul 1816 - Cameron,Fife,Scotland


And the marriage of this couple:-

Name: William Wallace
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1804
Marriage Place: Cameron,Fife,Scotland
Spouse: Margaret Morris
FHL Film Number: 1040151

(just in time for the birth of Christian :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Sep 2016 20:30

Interesting:-
This is a good contender for the baptism of Ann Terras:-

Name: Anna Terras
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1804
Birth Place: Ceres,Fife,Scotland
Father: John Terras
Mother: Agnes Wallace
FHL Film Number: 1040155


(mother Agnes Wallace)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2016 12:01

PM from Theresa:

I have noted the latest info, just have to put it together over the weekend. The female children of Thomas (who came to Australia) lived to at least 88 and 90 yo.
Sincere thanks
Theresa


[I've asked Theresa to reply on her thread, and not to me personally.]