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I am trying to find out more information about my ancestor Francis McCudden (b 1808 in Loughgall, Co Armagh) who emigrated to Australia in 1841 with his wife Eliza (Elizabeth? Née Riley or Reily) and their children. We have information about their lives in Australia but know next to nothing about their lives in Ireland, nor the family members who remained in Ireland. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Grania

Francis Mccudden

Australia, New South Wales, Index to Bounty Immigrants

Name Francis Mccudden
Birth Year (Estimated) 1809
Age 32
Native Residence Place Loughall, Armagh,
Father's Name Francis Mccudden
Mother's Name Mary
Spouse's Name Eliza Mccudden
Spouse's Residence Place Loughall, Armagh, Ireland
Spouse's Father's Name John Riley
Spouse's Mother's Name Elizabeth
Ship Name Herald
Event Date 15 Jul 1841
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Francis McCudden

in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
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Name: Francis McCudden
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1809
Baptism Date: 5 Oct 1809
Baptism Place: Armagh, Armagh, Ireland
Residence Place: Tulligarren
Diocese: Armagh
Father: James McCudden
Mother: Ann Mackell

Francis /McCudden/
Birth

1808

Loughgall Co Armagh, Ireland

Death

29 April 1875

Winburndale Creek, NSW, Australia

PARENTS

Father

Francis /McCudden/
Mother

Mary /Byrnes/


MARRIAGES (1)
Spouse

Eliza /Riley/

Marriage

1830

Co. Armagh, Ireland

John /McCudden/
Birth

1805

Loughgall Co Armagh, Ireland
Death

1834

PARENTS
Father

Francis /McCudden/
Mother

Mary /Byrnes/

????? Francis Mccudden

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Name: Francis Mccudden
Death Date: 1875
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Francis
Mother's name: Mary
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Place: Bathurst, New South Wales
Registration Number: 4804

Eliza /Riley/
Birth

1809

Co. Armagh, Ireland

Death

29 March 1896

Bathurst, NSW, Australia
PARENTS
Father

John /Riley/
Mother
/Elizabeth/

MARRIAGES (1)Spouse

Francis /McCudden/

Marriage

1830

Co. Armagh, Ireland

not finding any more information for family in ireland

Hi Maddie and Mallon
Thank you so much for confirming the information I have about Francis' arrival etc in Australia, along with his year and place of birth in Ireland. It seems that we may have to give up on trying to locate any information about his father Francis and mother Mary. The only thing that may exist is some folk memories and we will try to chase that up as we are currently visiting Ireland.
Grania

Grania...Details of Henry and John as listed on other thread.....


John McCudden


Details

Alias: Religion: Catholic Age on arrival: 32
Marital status: Single uncle Henry McCudden arrived per Britannia I (1797)****
Calling/trade: Soldier officers servant
Born: 1797 Native place: Armagh Co
Tried: 1827 Poonah Bombay India Sentence: Life Former convictions: 2 8 months
Ship: Flora (1829)
Crime: Desertion
Description:
Remarks:
Spouse:
Died: 1835 Wingello Stockade



Henry McCudden


Details

Alias: McCudding Religion: Catholic Age on arrival: 19
Marital status:
Calling/trade:
Born: 1778 Native place:
Tried: 1796 Armagh Sentence: Life Former convictions:
Ship: Britannia I (1797)
Crime:
Description:
Remarks: Guilty of manslaughter of James Core 1807
Spouse: m 1804 Parramatta Elizabeth Prosser per Experiment (1804)
Died:

Grania...Relates to a John McCarthy but also to Henry....


7 Sept 1810 Freemans’ Journal newspaper reporting on trials at Cork County Court in the week to 7th Sept 1809:
” John McCarthy, for COW STEALING, to be transported for life.” (emphasis added).

* Arrived NSW 2 July 1811
*1814 NSW Muster: Assigned to Henry McCudden. mustered at Liverpool.
McCudden was convicted in Co Armagh, Ireland in 1797 and arrived NSW 1797. Life sentence but given Cond Pardon and by 1814 was married to English convict Elizabeth Prosser. They had 15 acres at Prospect from 1806. In 1814 his two convict servants assisting on this land were Providence’s John McCarthy and Irish John Sculley off the “Three Bees”.

Details of Elizabeth Prosser....



Details for the convict Elizabeth Prosser (1804) Wife of Henry.

Convict Name: Elizabeth Prosser
Trial Place: Middlesex
Trial Date: 1802
Sentence: 14
Notes:

Arrival Details
Ship: Experiment I
Arrival Year: 1804


EDIT 11am...Elizabeths Trial.

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18020918-141

Grania......I hope I am following the right Henry...!!

On 8.10.1816 Henry McCudden was granted land in St Peter's Parish Prospect....

Portion 138
Henry McCudden arrived in the colony as a convict in 1796. He received a conditional pardon,
and was farming at Airds by 1813.
He also acted as a police constable for a time
In 1823 a clearing party was employed to reap wheat on his farm in the Campbelltown District. (NSW State Records Colonial Sec.Index)
In 1833 McCudden and his wife were still farming their property
. His nephew arrived as a convict in 1830, and McCudden applied
for him as an assigned servant, to assist on the farm (Liston 1988: 43-44).

Check out this link for everything relating to Henry (NSW Index) and Eliz.

http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/m/F35c_maa-macg-10.htm#P4260_153629

Thank you again Eringobragh.
I was interested to read that you've said Henry was tried in 1797 because the information we have was that it was in 1796 and he arrived in Botany Bay in 1797. Can you advise where you found the information about his trial?
The information about the two convict servants is also new to my
Dad and me. Thank you.

Grania...I think the date of 1897 (convicted) has been an error he was definitely tried 1896.

wahttp://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi?requestType=Search2&id=19330s.....

http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/mccarthy/john/130852

Thank you very much.

Convict Death
MCCUDDEN John - Flora 12/1834 [4/4549; Reel 690 Page 144] District/Parish: Wingello. Lieutenant Otway

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/keyname.aspx

(other items relating to surname also)


(1807 Henry article on below)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

Chris :)

Thank you Chris.

just cross-referencing the multiplicity of threads for anyone else who happens along, thanks to ArgyllGran for pointing it out

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1362423

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1362424

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