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George Collins family inTottenham , 1800-1900

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Simon

Simon Report 18 May 2017 16:13

Ok thanks maybe them .....

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 May 2017 16:12

just supposition
Name: William Collins
Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1740
Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham
County: Middlesex
Borough: Haringey
Parent(s): William Collins,
Mary Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

maybe a connection
Name: Mary Collins
Record Type: Burial
Age: 83
Estimated birth year: abt 1740
Death Date: abt 1823
Burial Date: 23 Mar 1823
Burial Place: St Andrew, Enfield, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew, Enfield
Borough: Enfield
Register Type: Parish Register
widow of samuel

Name: Anne Collins
Record Type: Burial
Age: 81
Estimated birth year: abt 1743
Death Date: abt 1824
Burial Date: 14 Mar 1824
Burial Place: St Andrew, Enfield, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew, Enfield
Borough: Enfield
Register Type: Parish Register

widow of william a labourer

Simon

Simon Report 18 May 2017 15:37

Yes that's correct

Stuck trying to find records about William and Anne ......

Simon

Simon Report 18 May 2017 15:35

Thank you :)
This is where I hit a brick wall
Cannot find any info about William + Anne Collins in Enfield anywhere :( .....??

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 May 2017 15:34

is this right
george's parents
Joseph born 1806 who married matilda baber

His parents
Joseph born 1773 who married sara m cock

His parents
William and Mary

from above baptisms

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 May 2017 15:25

Name: Matilda Barker
Spouse: Joseph Collins
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Feb 1835
Parish: West Hackney
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register

WITNESSES JOHN COLLINS AND ANN MANSFIEL COLLINS

Name: Joseph Collins
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1806
Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham
County: Middlesex
Borough: Haringey
Parent(s): Joseph Collins,
Sarah Maria Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 May 2017 15:14

just copied this over
Joseph's sisters and brothers

Chrysostomus 1770
Charles 1771
Mary 1775
Susanna 1776
David 1778 -----------------
Thomas 1782

Name: David Collins
Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1779
Parish: St Andrew
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): William Collins,
Anne Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Charles Collins
Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1771
Parish: St Andrew
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): William Collins,
Anne Collins
Record Type: Baptism

Name: Joseph Collins -------------------
Baptism Date: 14 Feb 1773
Parish: St Andrew
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): William Collins,
Anne Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Mary Collins
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1775
Parish: St Andrew
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): William Collins,
Anne Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Susanna Collins
Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1776
Parish: St Andrew
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): William Collins,
Anne Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Susanna Collins
Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1779
Parish: St Andrew
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): William Collins,
Anne Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Mary Collins
Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1781
Parish: St Andrew
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): William Collins,
Anne Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 May 2017 14:48

Name: Frederick Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 May 1818
Father's name: Joseph Collins
Mother's name: Sdarah Maria Collins
Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham
Borough: Haringey
Register Type: Parish Registers

abode Tottenham, fathers occupation chandler

Name: Frederick Collins ---- wheelwright
Spouse: Matilda Johnson
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 May 1842
Parish: West Hackney
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Joseph Collins ---- corn chandler
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Ann Manfield Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1815
Father's name: Joseph Collins
Mother's name: Sarah Maria Collins
Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham
Borough: Haringey
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Joseph Collins
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1806
Parish: All Hallows, Tottenham
County: Middlesex
Borough: Haringey
Parent(s): Joseph Collins,
Sarah Maria Collins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Simon

Simon Report 18 May 2017 13:49

The children were baptized at St Andrews church , Enfield town

Simon

Simon Report 17 May 2017 14:18

Be great to find more records :)

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 22:06

Those other names are Joseph's brothers and sisters
Joseph was born in 1772 as well
He went in to marry Sarah Maria Cock

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 21:49

Simon, I'm not sure that helps! Those must surely be the siblings of the Joseph that we can't prove is the father of your Joseph who married Matilda.

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 19:24

Joseph's sisters and brothers

Chrysostomus 1770
Charles 1771
Mary 1775
Susanna 1776
David 1778
Thomas 1782

He had two other sisters who died very young , another
Mary and Sussana ( when they died the next two girls were named after them )

Hope this helps find there father

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 15:33

Ok I see
Joseph had a lot of sisters and brothers

I will send you there names with dates a bit later today

Once again thank you very much for your time and help

It would be great to find his fathers name

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 15:23

Yes. That's what I was thinking but the problem is that Your Joseph married before civil registration began in 1837 so we don't know who his father was and the chances are that the same would apply to any possible siblings. Without finding any baptismal records we can't even be sure he had any siblings.

I really have to go and get ready as I am due to go out shortly but will look back later tonight or tomorrow. Perhaps Maddie will find some more to go by then.

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 15:06

Maybe Sarah Wright was Joseph's sister ?

Simon

Simon Report 16 May 2017 15:01

That's great information about Sarah :)

Yes let me know about Sarah Wright connection to Joseph

Thank you again

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 14:55

Registrar's surname was maybe Ross - old fashioned way of writing a double s looked like fs.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 May 2017 14:53

So, looks like Mary Cropley was Sarah Maria's sister?

JOHN
Last name CROPLEY
Marriage year 1812
Marriage day 8
Marriage month Nov
Place TOTTENHAM
Groom's first name(s) John
Groom's last name CROPLEY
Bride's first name(s) Mary
Bride's last name COCK
County Middlesex
Country England
Record set West Middlesex Marriage Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
West Middlesex Family History Society


Still doesn't give us a connection with your Joseph to Sarah's husband Joseph.

Let's see if we can identify Sarah Wright and her connection to Joseph (1773)

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 May 2017 13:41

Sarah Maria
Last name Cock
Residence St Margaret Westminster
Marriage year 1802
Parish St Margaret, Westminster
Spouse's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's last name Collins
Spouse residence St Margaret Westminster
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

a maybe
Name: Sarah Maria Cock
Baptism Date: 29 Aug 1773
Parish: All Saints, Edmonton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield
Parent(s): John Cock,
Ann Cock
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Sarah Maria Collins
Record Type: Burial
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1774
Death Date: abt 1839
Burial Date: 13 Jan 1839
Burial Place: All Hallows, Tottenham, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham
Borough: Haringey
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: Joseph Collins EDIT --- SEE PAGE 3 FOR BAPTISM
Record Type: Burial
Age: 84
Estimated birth year: abt 1774
Death Date: abt 1858
Burial Date: 31 Dec 1858
Burial Place: All Hallows, Tottenham, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows, Tottenham
Borough: Haringey
Register Type: Parish Register

1841
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Collins Male 68 1773 Middlesex, England
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Frederick Collins Male 23 1818 Middlesex, England
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Ann Mantfield Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England
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Joannah Tibbitt Female 85 1756 Middlesex, England

1851
King Street, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Cropley Head Married Male 78 1773 Shoemaker Journey Man Pauper Ely, Cambridgeshire, England
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Mary Cropley Wife Married Female 69 1782 Wife Of Shoemaker Journey Man Pauper Edmonton, Middlesex, England
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Joseph Collins Lodger Widower Male 78 1773 Formerly & Corn & Coal Dealer Seambler's Pensioner Enfield, Middlesex, England
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Henry Drane Lodger Unmarried Male 37 1814 Stage Coachman Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

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John
Last name Cock
Gender Male
Birth year 1745
Birth place -
Baptism year 1746
Baptism date 13 Apr 1746
Place Shoreditch
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Cock
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

or

John
Last name Cock
Name note -
Marriage year 1772
Marriage date 26 Apr 1772
Marriage place London
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Manfield ---- see 1841 census childs middle name
County London
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

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