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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Mar 2022 17:54

Could anyone with credits please look up a birth for me (although the name is common so might not be possible).

Jane Dixon, born c.1824
Father Robert (occ. Hind)
Mother Jane.

In 1841 all three were living in Morpeth, Northumberland but it says they were all born Scotland.

In 1851 Jane says she was born Morpeth (but that could be because that is the only place she knew).

Thanks in advance.

EDIT - just realised that this would be before registration. Does Scotlandspeople have parish baptisms?

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Mar 2022 17:58

Yes, there are Parish records on SP

You can easily check first yourself to see if a baptism is actually recorded

Have you tried familysearch?

Did she marry?

Do you know her denomination (faith-wise)?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Mar 2022 18:12

No results with both parents named as per your info

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2022 18:16

The nearest possible baptism on SP is this one:

DIXON
JANET
ROBERT DIXON/JENNY EASTON FR282 (FR282)
F
18/03/1827 (Date of baptism, not of birth)
807/20 26
Sprouston


Janet and Jenny can be variations of Jane.

She may not have been baptised in the year she was born.

You can look at the image of the original document on SP for 6 credits - though it probably won't tell you much more (if anything) than is in the transcription above.

Register free with SP, and buy the minimum amount of credits - 30 for £7.50.

Sprouston is near Kelso, and about 55 miles from Morpeth.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Mar 2022 18:18

Thanks ErikaH

I've just set a new password on Scotlandspeople (I haven't used the site for nearly 20 years) and found no results the same as you.

I am looking at a family who may or may not be connected to my grandfather whose parents and baptism are a bit complicated and I haven't been able to get further back than his birth in a workhouse. The names in this family could mean they are connected but I could just be clutching at straws. I have had threads about it in the past with no real results.

Thanks for looking anyway.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Mar 2022 18:25

Thanks ArgyllGran.

Because I know so little it's difficult to know which baptism might be her.

In 1851 census she gives her age as 27 and her married name at this time was Jane Gurney

I think she marries George Gurney in Sunderland in 1850 and must have a son and daughter from before she was married.

I'll have to leave it for now as I have things to do tonight.

Kath. x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2022 18:25

Baptisms of siblings of the above child, just in case:

DIXON
GEORGE
ROBERT DIXON/JENNET EASTON FR273 (FR273)
M
21/04/1822
807/
20 9
Sprouston

DIXON
JAMES
ROBERT DIXON/JENNY EASTON FR187 (FR187)
M
05/07/1819
807/
10 231
Sprouston



DIXON
MARY
ROBERT DIXON/JENNY EASTON FR277 (FR277)
F
04/07/1824
807/20 17
Sprouston


No sign of the parents' marriage in Scotland.

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Mar 2022 18:28

from ancestry
Name: Janet Dixon
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1827
Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1827
Baptism Place: , Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland
Residence Date: 1827
Residence Place: Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland
Father:
Robert Dixon
Mother:
Jenny Easton

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Glantlees, Alnwick, Northumberland, England

Robert Dixon Head
Married Male 59 1792 Agricultural labourer Scotland
Jane Dixon Wife
Married Female 52 1799 - Scotland
Jane Dixon Daughter
Unmarried Female 27 1824 Empd partly in agre & partly in domestic duties Scotland
Robert Dixon Grand son
- Male 1 1850 - Lesbury, Northumberland, England

but this maybe above birth
in the 1851 Scotland Census
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Name: Janet Dixon
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where Born: Sprouston, Roxburghshire
Parish Number: 807
Civil Parish: Sprouston
County: Roxburghshire
Address: Easter Softlaw
Occupation: House Servant
ED: 1
Page: 12
Household Schedule Number: 39
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1851_204
Household Members:
Name Age

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Mar 2022 18:36

Thanks Maddie but that can't be the right Jane Dixon because the one I'm looking at is married (Jane Gurney) and living in Sunderland in the 1851 census.

Kath. x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Mar 2022 18:54

Have you got the cert for it’s info

Marriages Mar 1850
Dixon Jane Sunderland 24 265
Gurney George Sunderland 24 265

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2022 18:55

For our reference:

Jane Gurney
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Jane Gurney
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where Born: Merpeth, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Sunderland
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Sunderland
Sub-registration District: East Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 112
Piece: 2397
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Gurney 27
William Gurney 3 - nephew
Mary Ann Gurney 5 - niece
Henry Dixon Gurney 5 - son
Barbara Gurney 3 - daughter
John Gurney 6 Mo - son
Henry Dixon 29 - nephew, Morpeth

All the children born in Sunderland


GURNEY, JOHN GEORGE mmn DIXON
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION Volume 24 Page 369

DIXON, BARBARA -
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION Volume 24 Page 323

DIXON, GILBERT HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION Volume 24 Page 314

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Mar 2022 18:57

Name: Jane Dixon
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 28 Feb 1850
Marriage Place: Monk-Wearmouth, Durham, England
Father:
William Dixon >>>>>>>>>
Spouse:
George Gurney
FHL Film Number: 1514568
Reference ID: 486


So not the right lady it looks like

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2022 19:05

Just to be clear, Kath -

is the woman who married George Gurney the one you're interested in?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2022 19:12

Possibly her parents?

Note the mother's name is Barbara, and so is Jane's daughter's.

Wm Dixon
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Wm Dixon
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where Born: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth
Hundred: Chester (East Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Sunderland
Sub-registration District: Monkwearmouth
Neighbors:
Piece: 299
Book: 3
Folio: 12
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Dixon 50 - Durham, coal miner
Barbara Dixon 30 - not born in county
Elenor Dixon 12 - Durham
John Dixon 14 - Durham - coal miner

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2022 19:19

William Dixon
in the 1851 England Census
Name: William Dixon
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Barbara Dixon
Gender: Male
Where Born: Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Sunderland
Sub-registration District: Monk
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 189
Piece: 2398
Folio: 29
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dixon 62 - Northumberland
Barbara Dixon 53 - Northumberland
John Dixon 23 - Jarrow
Eleanor Dixon 20 - Jarrow

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Mar 2022 19:24

So the woman who married Gurney can’t be the one referred to in opening post, with father Robert

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2022 19:36

Eleanor Dixon
in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name: Eleanor Dixon
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 6 Aug 1831
Christening Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father: William Dixon
Mother: Barbara Dixon


Ancestry suggests this may be William and Barbara's marriage:

Barbara Boag
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973
Name: Barbara Boag
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 9 May 1817
Marriage Place: Heworth,Durham,England
Spouse: William Dixon

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Mar 2022 21:42

Hi everyone - sorry I've been away from the computer for a few hours.

Before anyone spends any more time on this I should perhaps explain - but it's complicated.

My grandfather was John George Anderson born 25th August 1870 in the Mint Street Workhouse, Southwark.

Parents on the birth certificate were George Anderson and Mary Ann Dixon

However my grandfather's baptism record has him as John George Humble (?) father's name still George but mother's name Barby (presumably Barbara - as his mother was Barbara in all other records). I believe, but have no proof, that the name change could have been as a result of his father being unemployed and doing a moonlight flit. The Humble name was only used on the baptism and never again. My grandfather was always John George Anderson.

The reason for me looking at the Gurney family in 1851 is that on my grandfather's father's death certificate the informant was John Gurney who was described as brother-in-law. I know this John Gurney was in Painshaw, Durham in the 1911 census - the address is the same as on the death certificate of my great-grandfather. I have worked backwards with him and the only one that seems to fit is the John Gurney with mother Jane in Sunderland in the 1851 census.

As far as I know my great grandparents didn't have any other children and and I have a theory that the mother on my grandfather's birth certificate could have been
a relative of Barbara (Barby) who had the child in the workhouse and gave him up to George and Barbara. It's very difficult to prove any of this but every few years I have another go at it.

Thanks for all your help.

Kath. x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Apr 2022 00:12

Name: Jane Gurney
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Sunderland, Durham, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1880
Inferred Death Place: Durham, United Kingdom
Volume: 10a
Page: 336

safc

safc Report 1 Apr 2022 02:00

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Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
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County Northumberland
Place (Links to more information) Morpeth
Church name (Links to more information) St Mary the Virgin
Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript
Baptism date 18 Apr 1824
Person forename Jane
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Ann
Father surname DIXON
Person abode Morpeth
Father occupation Hostler
Transcribed by Stephen Andrews
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