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I'm struggling to find the following family in the 1841 Census and would really appreciate a little help. I've checked trees on Ancestry but no one appears to have the 1841 census.

Thomas Allsop c1820
Ann Allsop 1820 Hanbury, Staffs
Charles Allsop 1840 birth regd Tamworth Staffs

Surname spelt Alsop/Allsop/Allsopp

I don't know where Thomas is from or how to identify him in census records as the only record I have for him is his marriage to Ann. His father was named as Thomas and witnesses were Anns brother John Vernon and a Jacob Bannister.

Thomas and Ann were married on 20th November 1839 in Hanbury. I don't know how long they were together but Ann was with Samuel Pegg in 1851 listed as lodger and they had a baby daughter, Elizabeth. They were in Hanbury and both shown as married.

Charles was baptised 25 June 1840, abode looks to be Workhouse.

First name(s) Charles
Country England
Last name Allsop
Archive reference D3773/1/9
Baptism year 1840
Register type Baptism
Baptism date 25 Jun 1840
Page 32
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Denomination Anglican
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Place Tamworth, St Editha



1851 for reference.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
New Lodge, Hanbury, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann Allsop Head
Married Female 31 1820 Lab wife Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Allsop Daughter
- Female 1 1850 - Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
Samuel Pegg Lodger
Married Male 58 1793 Ag lab Norbury, Derbyshire, England

Birth

Charles
Country England
Last name Allsop
Volume 16
Birth quarter 2
Page 504
Birth year 1840
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Vernon
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Tamworth
Subcategory Civil Births
County Staffordshire
Collections from Great Brit


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Charles
County Staffordshire
Last name Allsop
Country England
Birth year 1840
Archive reference D1001/1/5
Age 16
Register type Burial
Death year 1856
Page 99
Death date ? ? 1856
Record set Staffordshire Burials
Burial year 1856
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 04 Jun 1856
Subcategory Parish Burials
Denomination Anglican
Collections from England, Great Britain
Place Mayfield, St John the Baptist

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hanbury Wood End, Hanbury, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann Vernon Head
Widow Female 77 1784 Midwife Hilton, Derbyshire, England
Charles Vernon Son
Unmarried Male 46 1815 Pensioner marine Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
John Hudson Son in law
Married Male 41 1820 Agricultural labourer Clifton, Derbyshire, England
>>Ann Hudson Daughter
Married Female 41 1820 Agricultural labourers wife Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
>>Elizabeth Allsop Granddaughter
- Female 11 1850 Scholar Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
>>Mary Allsop Granddaughter
- Female 8 1853 Scholar Hanbury, Staffordshire, England

So Thomas appears to have died between 1851 and 1860.


Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
ALLSOP Ann Burton 6B 482 Scan available - click to view
Hudson John Burton 6b 482



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ALLSOP, THOMAS 74
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 142

Too old perhaps.

Charles was with his maternal grandparents in 1851 - but not in 1841

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
New Lodge, Hanbury, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Vernon Head Married Male 68 1783 Pauper ag lab Hanbury, Staffordshire, England
Ann Vernon Wife - Female 66 1785 Pauper midwife Hilton, Derbyshire, England
Charles Alsop Grand son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Hanbury, Staffordshire, England

Thanks everyone for your replies. I hadn't realised that they'd been in the workhouse.

I will look for deaths between 1851 and 1860 for Thomas. I have tried looking for a baptism for him but I can't narrow it down as I don't know where he was born.

Thomas's age on marriage was 19 so c1820. It's very frustrating not finding him in 1841.

Just to see if anymore children reg but suspect Charles was only registered because he was born in the workhouse

So

ALLSOP, CHARLES VERNON
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in TAMWORTH UNION Volume 16 Page 504

Nope that’s not working , maybe more children but not registered !

She had a Child by Samuel Pegg

Name: Elizabeth Alsop Or Pegg
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 28 Feb 1850
Baptism Place: Hanbury,Stafford,England
Father:
Samuel Pegg
Mother:
Anne Alsop
FHL Film Number: 417196, 426553


PEGG, ELIZABETH VERNON
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT UNION Volume 17 Page 22

What were the occupations of Thomas and his father on the marriage cert?

And an address?

Thomas
Father's last name Alsop
Last name Alsop
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Birth year 1820
Spouse's father's last name Vernon
Age 19
Denomination Anglican
Residence Wood End
Place Hanbury, St Werburgh
Year 1839
County Staffordshire
Date 20 Nov 1839
Country England
Spouse's first name(s) Anne
Archive reference D5940/1/3
Spouse's last name Vernon
Page 11
Spouse's birth year 1819
Record set Staffordshire Marriages
Spouse's age 20
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's residence Wood End
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Father's first name(s) Thomas


thomas and his father were labourers