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Mary Tizard bc1846 Married Kendle ??

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alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Jan 2023 14:55

First name(s) Mary
Memorial reference 173
Last name Martell
Notes It is noted that the year 1883 was not a leap year, but the inscription is clear.
Birth year 1847
Document link A document containing detail of the church, and layouts for all inscriptions
Age 32
County Middlesex
Death year 1879
Country England
Place Feltham
Record set Middlesex Monumental Inscriptions
Dedication St Dunstan
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Inscription In memory / of / MARY / wife of W. MARTELL / who died Sept. 2nd 1879, aged 32.

On the boulder: ETHELBERT HAROLD / [ ] died 29th Feb. 1883 / Also CONSTANCE RAY SISSIE / born 9th July 1885 / died 4th July 1886 / the beloved children of / [ ] and RACHEL MARTELL / [an illegible quotation].
Subcategory Parish Burials
Monument type Headstone with boulder at the foot
Collections from England, Great Britain

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Jan 2023 14:50

FUNERAL OF THE LATE MR. MARTELL.
...bore the following inscription: Walter Martell. Died 27th January, I890, aged 47 years." Wreaths deposited on the graves were front Mr and Mrs Dixon "with deepest sympathy," and "In loving remembrance of brother Walter Martell, with sincere regret and ...
08 February 1890 - Middlesex & Surrey Express - Staines, Middlesex, England


Walter was stationmaster at Feltham and had a large funeral.

'The stone at the head of the grave reminded those present that deceased's first wife, a lady of an amiable disposition, lies buried there, the words thereon being as follows "In loving memory of Mary, wife of W Martell who died Sept 2nd 1879 aged 30, her end was peace."

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2023 14:48

Richard Tizard
in the Dorset, England, Dorchester Prison Admission and Discharge Registers, 1782-1901

Name: Richard Tizard, occ.Butcher
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1827
Received Date: 5 May 1859
Place of Origin: Weymouth
Record Type: Description of Prisoners Book
Year range: 1858-1863
Reference Number: NG PR1 D3 1

Crime: Assault

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2023 14:29

Second marriage..................

Marriages Mar 1864 (>99%)
Kendle Stacey Weymouth 5a 505
Shelley Maria Weymouth 5a 505

KENDLE, MARIA ELIZABETH SHELLEY
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 05A Page 321

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Whyke Lane Cottage, Rumbolds-Wyke, Westhampnett, Sussex, England
Stacey Kendle Head Married Male 61 1820 Master mariner retired Burnham, Norfolk, England
Maria Kendle Wife Married Female 53 1828 - Hatfield, Essex, England
Maria E Kendle Daughter Single Female 13 1868 - Weymouth, Dorset, England

Stacey Kendle committed suicide by drowning in the Portsmouth and Arun Canal. Newspaper report is on FMP

Daughter Maria married a clergyman in 1891

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2023 12:28

Kate's birth was registered JAS 1871 - on April 2nd 1871, Mary Kendle was 'at home' with parents in Dorset and Walter Martell was in Middlesex. :-S :-S :-S :-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jan 2023 12:13

First name(s) Kate Mary Harriet
Last name Martell
Gender Female
Father's first name(s) Walter
Father's last name Martell
Mother's first name(s) Mary Jane
Mother's last name -
Baptism date 04 Feb 1872
Place Sunbury on Thames
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms


First name(s) Kate Mary Harriet
Last name Martell
Age 21
Father's first name(s) Walter
Father's last name Martell
Spouse's first name(s) William John Cols
Spouse's last name Lane
Spouse's birth year 1868
Spouse's father's first name(s) John Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Lane
Residence Walworth, Surrey, England
Marriage date 27 Nov 1892
County Surrey
Marriage place Walworth
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

Marcus

Marcus Report 24 Jan 2023 20:34

Thanks ErikaH, and everyone else, for your input.

All greatly appreciated !!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Jan 2023 20:04

There was NO marriage between Bown and Sly - their daughter was illegitimate, as I stated. All info posted shows that to be a fact

Marcus

Marcus Report 24 Jan 2023 18:46

Thanks ArgyllGran,

That all seems to make sense now... I couldn't find a marriage either for Mary Jane Bown / Sly & Walter Martell.

So, Rachel is in fact - Walters '1st wife' after having at least 4 chidren with Mary Jane Bown.

Thanks again !!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Jan 2023 18:21

Do you mean you want information about William/Walter Martell?



MARTELL, KATE MARY HARRIET mmn BOWN
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in STAINES Volume 03A Page 8

Kate Mary Harriet Martell
 in the 1881 England Census
Name: Kate Mary Harriet Martell
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Walter Martell
Mother: Rachel Martell
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunbury, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Feltham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: High Street London South West Railway Station
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Staines
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 1326
Folio: 65
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Martell 39 - Portsmouth, railway stationmaster
Rachel Martell 29
Kate Mary Harriet Martell 9
Dora Isabel Martell 7
Albert Edward George Martell 5
Walter Frank Martell  
Susan Ann Brooker 11

MARTELL, ISABEL DORA mmn BOWN
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in STAINES Volume 03A Page 5

MARTELL, ALBERT GEORGE EDWIN mmn BOWN
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in STAINES Volume 03A Page 9



MARTELL, WALTER FRANK mmn TARRANT
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in STAINES Volume 03A Page 9


Rachel is his second wife:

Marriages Jun 1880   (>99%)
MARTELL  Walter  Staines  3a 25   
Tarrant  Rachel  Staines  3a 25


Walter Martell
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Walter Martell
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: 1843
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth Hampshire England
Civil parish: Sunbury
Town: Sunbury
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Staines
Sub-registration district: Sunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 89
Piece: 1304
Folio: 52
Page number: 16
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Anthony Challis 45 Head
Caroline Challis 45 Wife
Walter Martell 28 Lodger , married, railway stationmaster.



Death of first "wife":

Deaths Sep 1879   (>99%)
MARTELL  Mary Jane  32  Staines  3a 2

However, it doesn't look as if she and Walter were married.

Can't see William Kindle/Kendle definitely after the marriage to Mary Jane. Maybe he was still alive??

Marcus

Marcus Report 24 Jan 2023 17:52

Hello Everyone,

Many, many thanks for all your kind help in trying to sort out this rather confusing part of my tree !!

It is all starting to make sense now.

Apologies for nor replying sooner, as I have had some surgery, and have been laying low to recover. Almost done on that front.....

I have amended my tree to accommodate what has been said.

So, it looks like daughter Mary JaneTizard, was in fact Mary Jane BOWN or possible SLY !! - depending which side of her parents marriage she was born....

Thanks for the Marriage link to Wiliam Kendle.

Since adding all this to my tree, I see that another person on Ancestry has a possible 2nd marriage of Mary Jane Bown / Sly to William/Walter MARTELL and they have a daughter - Kate Mary MARTELL b Staines Sept 1871.

Is anyone able to help me find this new addition to the family??

Regards,



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jan 2023 11:52

From the GRO.......with MMN left blank to denote illegitimacy

SLY, MARY JANE BOWN -
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 08 Page 135


Name: Thomas Sly
Gender: M (Male)
Birth Date: 11 avr. 1824 (11 Apr 1824)
Birth Place: Weymouth, Dorset, England, United Kingdom
Father:
Richard Sly
Mother:
Elizabeth Allen Hussey
Spouse:
Mary Bown
Child:
Mary Jane Bown
View on Geneanet:
https://gw.geneanet.org/haneliza2082?n=sly&oc=5&p=thomas

Name: Thomas Hy
[Sly]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil parish: Melcombe Regis
Hundred: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Weymouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 295
Book: 17
Folio: 33
Page number: 17
Household Members (Name) Age
Richard Hy 50
Elizabeth Hy 55
Joseph Hy 20
Thomas Hy 15
Richard Hy 15


If you have Tizard as her father in your tree, you'll probably need to do some editing ;-) ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jan 2023 11:45

Stacey Kendle was a Mariner....................

?????????

Name: Willm Kendle
Birth Date: abt 1843
Gender: Male
Age at Start of Service: 23
First Service Date: 1 Sep 1866
First Ship Served On: St George
Last Service Date: 30 Sep 1869
Last Ship Served On: Achilles
Record Type: Entry Books of Certificates
Date Range: 1869 Aug - 1870 May

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jan 2023 11:42

Ancestry suggests this is the man Mary married - when you purchase the marriage cert, you will know whether they are correct

Name: Willm Kendle
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Stacy Kendle
Mother's Name: Elizth Kendle
Gender: Male
Where born: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: South Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration District: Kings Lynn
Sub-registration District: Kings Lynn South
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 114
Piece: 1829
Folio: 593
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Stacy Kendle 32
Elizth Kendle 36
Willm Kendle 8
John Kendle 7


Name: Stacey Kendle
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1841
Marriage Place: St. Margaret'S, Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father: Thomas Kendle
Spouse: Elizabeth Tooffer
FHL Film Number: 1471535
Reference ID: item 15 p 106 St. Margaret's

Name: Stacey Kendle
Gender: M (Male)
Birth Date: 22 mai 1817 (22 May 1817)
Birth Place: Burnham Overy, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
Death Place: Hunston nr Chichester, Sussex, West Sussex (Sussex), England, United Kingdom
Father:
Thomas Kendle
Spouse:
Elizabeth Troffer
Maria Shelley
Child:
Frederick Stacey Kendle
John Kendle
Maria Elizabeth Kendle
William Kendle

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jan 2023 11:30

Name: Mary Jane Bown
Baptism Date: 19 Nov 1845
Baptism Place: Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Mother: Mary Bown

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Jan 2023 23:15

Completing the early set - original age for Mary looks more like a 5 but an officials mark has gone through the figure.

Mary Tizard in 1851
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
6, Crescent Court, Melcombe Regis, Weymouth, Dorset, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Tizard Head Married Male 23 1828 Journeyman batcher Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Mary Tizard Wife Married Female 28 1823 Laundress Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Richard Tizard Son - Male 2 1849 - Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Mary Tizard Daughter - Female 3 1848 Scholar Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 13 Jan 2023 21:50

And Mary in 1861.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Frederick Place, Melcombe Regis, Weymouth, Dorset, England

Household members (8 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Kurman Head
Married Male 34 1827 Schoolmaster Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Frances Kurman Wife
Married Female 34 1827 - Creech St Michael, Somerset, England
Elizabeth S Kurman Daughter
- Female 2 1859 - Melcombe, Dorset, England
Frances S Kurman Daughter
- Female 0 1861 - Melcombe, Dorset, England
Elizabeth F Symes Mother in law
Widow Female 73 1788 Railway sareholder Portland, Dorset, England
Sarah S Symes Sister in law
Unmarried Female 31 1830 - Creech St Michael, Somerset, England
Harriet Amey Servant
Unmarried Female 17 1844 House servant Sutton Poyntz, Dorset, England
>>Mary J Lizard Servant
Unmarried Female 15 1846 House servant Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jan 2023 21:50

Mary’s birth was registered as BOWN......

EDITED 14/01/23
and SLY in OND 1845

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
Bown Mary Jane Bown Weymouth 8 135
Sly Mary Jane Bown Weymouth 8 135

alviegal

alviegal Report 13 Jan 2023 21:48

So perhaps?

Marriages Mar 1868   (>99%)
>>BOWN  Mary Jane    Weymouth  5a 493   Scan available - click to view
GIBBS  Susanna Bennett  Weymouth  5a 493   Scan available - click to view
>>KENDLE  William  Weymouth  5a 493   Scan available - click to view
Miller  Edwin  Weymouth  5a 493

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jan 2023 21:48

Mary Jane Bown married William Kendle in 1868