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alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Feb 2023 20:49

1921 for Harold and Reginald.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
3, Alexandra Place, Balsall Heath Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire, England


Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Charles Aitkin (Aitken) Head
Male 1869 51 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Stonemason J Barnsley & Sons Building Contractors Out Of Work
Maud Finch Aitkin Wife
Female 1872 49 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Home Duties -
Frank Finch Son
Male 1904 16 Kings Heath, Worcestershire, England Brass Filer Eagle Brass Slamping Co Brass Founders Bidstead Mounts
Harold Finch Son
Male 1907 14 Selly Oak, Worcestershire, England - -
Reginald Finch Son
Male 1909 12 Selly Oak, Worcestershire, England - -
Jessie Finch Daughter
Female 1913 7 Selly Oak, Worcestershire, England - -
Arthur Finch Son
Male 1920 1 Birmingham, Worcestershire, England - -


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
89, Highbury Road, Kings Heath, Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph H Finch Head
Married Male 33 1868 Bricklayers labourer Honeybourne, Gloucestershire, England
>>Florence M Finch Wife
Married Female 25 1876 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
William Finch Son
Single Male 3 1898 - Selly Park, Worcestershire, England
Daisy M Finch Daughter
Single Female 1 1900 - Selly Park, Worcestershire, England
>>Charles Aitkin Boarder
Single Male 32 1869 Stone mason Scotland
Lily Shipway Boarder
Single Female 21 1880 Cocoa essence packer Stonehouse, Gloucestershire, England

Gerry

Gerry Report 5 Feb 2023 12:46

thanks Argll

A Harold Finch died 1994 Bournemouth

birth 7/5/1907

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Feb 2023 12:40

Harold Finch dob2/5/1907 died in Bournemouth 2nd. Quarter 1994

District 4271A Registrr no. A5D entry 94.

Added: looks like a lot of cross posting

Added: can’t see a will

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2023 12:37

???
FINCH, HAROLD mmn DAVIS
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in KING'S NORTON Volume 06C Page 457

So Reginald looks like being his brother (as one would also guess from 1939 above):

FINCH, REGINALD CHARLES mmn DAVIS
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in KING'S NORTON Volume 06C Page 357

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2023 12:34

1939 Register
3/140 Balsall Heath Road, Birmingham, Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England

Reginald (C) Finch 04 Jun 1909 Male Builder's Labourer Married 12 1
Rose Finch 04 Jun 1912 Female Soap Packer Married 12 2
Margaret (R) Hancox (Finch) 06 Mar 1937 Female No Occupation Single 12 3
Harold Finch 07 May 1907 Male Builder's Labourer Single 12 4

FINCH, HAROLD 1907
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/1994 in BOURNEMOUTH (4271A) Reg A5D Entry Number 94

Gerry

Gerry Report 5 Feb 2023 12:30

harold Finch died 1994 in Bournemouth

born 7/5/1907

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2023 12:20

Re the Birmingham address for Alice & Harold on ERs 1957-65 , which I posted at the bottom of page 1 -

Harold was at that same address in 1950, with Reginald Finch and Rose Finch.

In 1955, Reginald and Rose are at that address - but not Harold.


Marriages Jun 1935 (>99%)
Finch Reginald Hopkins Birmingham 6d 617
Hopkins Rose Finch Birmingham 6d 617


This is NOT that Reginald's birth, as this child died the same year:

FINCH, REGINALD mmn HAWKES
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 144



nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Feb 2023 12:07

Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be a death for aHarold in Bournemouth - do you have any idea about when or where he may have died.

Gerry

Gerry Report 5 Feb 2023 12:03

She was in a nursing home.

btw Harold Finch died before Alice. his death cert may help

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Feb 2023 11:53

No problem.

It is good that you were adopted together and that you have found your half.
sisters families. Many people are not that lucky.

Could you tell us who registered the death and where Alice was living. Although if she was, say, in a nursing home it won’t help much. She doesn’t seem to have left a will.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2023 11:50

Alice and Harold Finch in 1965:

Alice A Finch
in the Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Alice A Finch
Residence Year: 1965
Ward or Division/Constituency: Districts 1 to 111
Street Address: 87 UPPER THOMAS STREET 3 bk
Residence Place: Birmingham, West Midlands, England


They were at that address from at least 1957 until at least 1965

Gerry

Gerry Report 5 Feb 2023 11:40

sorry nameeslessone. its the kind of thing that happens with this blasted dementia

Your questions

Brother adopted with me
I have known about my half sisters and there dauters for a long time. I have recently been in touch with one of my half nieces

I have the death cert

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Feb 2023 10:37

I thought I would set out what we had so far as it can be difficult to get ones had around al the information, even with dementia. If I've got anything wrong or missing I'll add it in as an amendment so it all keeps together.

Alice Ann Jenkins born 25 August 1912 in Worcestershire
1938 marriage to Harry H Bradley
1939 is registered as living with Bradley with NHS amendments to show her later names as Perschke and Finch (Finch by deed pol)
Birth of two daughters in 1940 & 1943
1949 Alice was having an affair with Gerrys father and she had a son in late 1949.
Gerry appears to have been registered twice, as ‘Gerry’ E Bradley and again on the same page as ‘Gerry’ K Perschke.
1950 Alice & Gerhard marry in 14/1/ 1950 and have another son in November registered as Perschke
1951 14/2/1951 Alice leaves added: Harold Finch
Added: 1994 Harold Finch dies in Bournemouth
1997 Alice dies in Bournemouth.

Questions.
Did Gerry’s brother also go for adoption or did she take him with her.
Has Gerry registered on the Gov. Adoption website in case his siblings have been looking for him.
Does Gerry know about his half sisters. It looks as though they remained in Worcestershire
Where was Alice living between 1951 and 1997.
Note for Gerry: The only information on the death certificate for Alice would be what was actually known by whoever reported it. It might be worth getting this certificate from the GRO.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2023 09:15

As already said, the notation NR230 on the 1939 Register means that she changed her name to Finch by Deed Poll.


She did not marry Finch , nor anyone else after 1950 - at least not in Scotland, Wales, or England.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Feb 2023 09:01

Gerry

That was me, not Erika. I had started the post with a note to Erika.

Nameslessone

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Feb 2023 07:54

If she was using the name Finch at one time then she must have used that on documents she filled in which is why it’s been picked up and added on the 1939 register
Doesnt mean she actually married a Finch but she was known as for a time

The annotation on the 1939 isn’t a marriage date but the date they were did the name change

The register doesn’t give marriage or death dates only the birth date as part of the original record

Gerry

Gerry Report 5 Feb 2023 01:18

Thank you Erica. Nice of you to say so.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Feb 2023 20:54

Erika - she died in 1997, Bournemouth.

Gerry, thank you for telling us about your health issues. Don’t be afraid to ask for explanations of anything that has been posted.

At the moment it looks as though Alice may not have actually married Finch. Although it is possible they married outside of England and Wales. Unless someone can find her on the old Electoral Rolls we might not be able to find anything more.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Feb 2023 20:06

When did she die?
Who registered the death?
What was her last address?

Gerry

Gerry Report 4 Feb 2023 18:33

my father married again