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ELizabeth m Colutts 1901-1989

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 20 Feb 2023 00:42

I wonder if anyone can help. I am trying to find descendants of this lady whose
father was my great uncle.
I would appreciate any help at all

thank you

Elizabeth

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Feb 2023 03:52

More information needed, Elizabeth

Which country?

does "m" mean an initial or short for "married"

Is the surname spelled correctly?

I've just spent a few minutes, and there doesn't seem to be anything easy to find in England or Wales.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Feb 2023 07:28

What country please

Who is the great uncle ?

More info needed I,m afraid

An initial search doesn’t find her name anywhere

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 09:31

No record on FMP anywhere in the world of surname Colutts. Is the spelling correct?

You could get a copy of her death cert for details of informant

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 20 Feb 2023 10:08

I can’t find anything, birth or death, on Ancestry.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Feb 2023 10:32

I wonder if you mean Coutts ???

If so, it's quite a common name - but even if the name is Coutts, there's no death in 1989 in England, Scotland, or Wales for an Elizabeth Coutts born in 1901.

Is Colutts (or whatever it is) her maiden name or married name?

There are four births of girls named Elizabeth Coutts in 1901 in Scotland, but none in England or Wales.



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 10:42

One of the OP's grandfathers was Robert Gibb born 1880 in Glasgow, and his wife was Margaret McColl

Both died in South Africa

Of course, she had another set of grandparents!!

Name Margaret McColl Gibb
Sex Female
Age 44
Death Date 4 Feb 1926
Death Place Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa
Birth Year (Estimated) 1882
Event Type Death


Name Robert Gibb
Sex Male
Age 64
Death Date 23 Nov 1944
Death Place Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa
Death Place Lower Houghton, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa
Birth Year (Estimated) 1880
Event Type Death

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 10:59

One of the children of the above couple.......not directly relevant to the enquiry, but giving time-scale and location
GIBB
SARAH MEIGH
MCCOLL
F
1903
644 / 2 / 629
CAMLACHIE

The couple in 1901
187, Westmuir Street, Glasgow, Camlachie, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Robert Gibb Head Married Male 21 1880 Mason Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Margaret Gibb Wife Married Female 20 1881 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 11:17

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cornfield Street, Glasgow, Camlachie, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Robert Gibb Head Married Male 35 1856 Mason (unemp) Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Sarah Gibb Wife Married Female 34 1857 Weaver cotton Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Maggie Gibb Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1876 French polisher Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Gibb Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1878 Message girl Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Robert Gibb Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
William Gibb Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Sarah Gibb Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Nellie Gibb Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Caroline Gibb Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Helen Street, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland

John McColl Head Married Male 50 1841 Iron ship plater Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Janet McColl Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary McColl Daughter Unmarried Female 28 1863 Shirt machinist Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John McColl Son Unmarried Male 19 1872 Appr engine pattern maker Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Christina McColl Daughter - Female 17 1874 Jacket machinist Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Elizabeth McColl Daughter - Female 15 1876 Boot fitter Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
George McColl Son - Male 13 1878 Appr boot maker Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Samuel McColl Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Margaret McColl Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Hugh McColl Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Millar Mother-in-law Married Female 69 1822 - Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 11:21

'Search all member trees' produces

Elizabeth Coutts 1901 Indiana U.S.A ... Yes Elizabeth

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Feb 2023 11:41

??
1920
South Pasadena, Los Angeles, California, United States
View original record
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John M Coutts Self Married Male 43 1877 Scotland
Susie Coutts Wife Married Female 47 1873 Michigan
Elizabeth Coutts Daughter Single Female 18 1902 Indiana
Georgy Coutts Son Single Male 15 1905 Indiana
Charles Coutts Son Single Male 8 1912 California

Elizabeth Mcculloch
Country United States
Last name Coutts
Spouse's first name(s) Alstine Foster
Sex Female
Spouse's last name Parmenter
Age 26
Spouse's age 26
Birth year 1902
Spouse's birth year 1902
Father's first name(s) John Masterton
Spouse's father's first name(s) Foster Wing
Father's last name Coutts
Spouse's father's last name Parmenter
Mother's first name(s) Susanna T
Spouse's mother's first name(s) Anna May
Mother's last name Dewar
Spouse's mother's last name Fifield
Year 1928
Notes Marriage Record
Event date 20 Jul 1928
Record set United States Marriages
Place Los Angeles, California, United States
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
County Los Angeles
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
State California

Bessie M
State California
Last name Parmenter
Country United States
Full name as given Bessie M. Parmenter
Obituary text Bessie was born on January 26, 1905 and passed away on Sunday, February 2, 1997.Bessie was a resident of Costa Mesa, California.
Birth year 1905
Source link View the Source Record
Birth date 26 Jan 1905
Record set United States Obituary Notices
Death year 1997
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death date 02 Feb 1997
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Full dates January 26, 1905 - February 2, 1997
Collections from Americas, United States
Place Costa Mesa, California

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 11:45

As the OP knows when the woman died, one has to assume she knows what her name was at the time

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 15:40

Name: Elizabeth M Coutts
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Departure Age: 24
Arrival Age: 24
Birth Date: 1901
Birth Place: Indiana
Place of Origin: California
Departure Date: 18 Jul 1925
Departure Place: Wilmington, California
Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1925
Arrival Place: Honolulu, Hawaii



Name: John M Poutts
[John M Coutts]
Age in 1910: 40
Birth Date: 1870
[1870]
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1910: Coronado, San Diego, California, USA
Street: E Avenue
House Number: 876
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Susie M Poutts
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Merchant
Industry: Dry Goods
Employer, Employee or Other: Own Account
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John M Poutts 40 Head
Susie M Poutts 41 Wife
Elizabeth M Poutts 8 Daughter
George L Poutts 6 Son


Name: John Masterton Coutts
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1870
Birth Place: Falkirk,Stirling,Scotland
Father: Charles Coutts
Mother: Isabella Masterton


Name: John M Coutts
Marriage Age: 31
Birth Date: abt 1869
Marriage Date: 5 Jun 1900
Marriage Place: Marion, Indiana, USA
Spouse Name: Susana Taylor Dewar

Name: John Masterton Coutts
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1870
Death Date: 23 Apr 1943
Cemetery: Forest Lawn Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Glendale, Los Angeles County, California, United States of America

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pleasance Gardens, Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Charles Coutts Head Widower Male 45 1836 Magistrate draper (empl 3 men 2 boys & 2 women) Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Jane Coutts Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1866 Scholar Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
John Coutts Son Unmarried Male 11 1870 Scholar Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
David Coutts Son Unmarried Male 8 1873 No occupation (disabled) Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Margaret Murray House keeper Unmarried Female 52 1829 General serv Ross & Cromarty, Scotland

COUTTS
JOHN MASTERTON
MASTERSON
M
1870
479 / 1 / 78
FALKIRK BURGH

COUTTS
DAVID MASTERTON
MASTERTON
M
1873
479 / 1 / 1
FALKIRK BURGH



Name: Elizabeth C Parmenter
[Elizabeth C Coutts]
Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1902
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birth Place: Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Residence Date: 1950
Home in 1950: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA
Street Name: Helgard Avenue
House Number: 424
Dwelling Number: 15
Farm: No
Acres: No
Inferred Previous Residence Place: Los Angeles, California
Occupation: Junior High School Teache
Industry: City
Father Birth Place: Scotland
Mother Birth Place: Michigan
Occupation Category: Working
Hours Worked: 48
Worker Class: Government
Same House: Yes
Previously on Farm: No
Same County: Yes
School Completed: C5
Grade Completed: Yes
Weeks Seeking Work: 4
Weeks Worked: 42
Income: 500
Other Income: None
Supplemental Income: None
Relative Income: None
Relative Other Income: 50000
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Alstene F Parmenter 48 Head
Elizabeth C Parmenter 48 Wife
Sue Anne Parmenter 18 Daughter
Mary E Parmenter 14 Daughter
Margaret J Parmenter 7 Daughter
Susan T Coutts 81 Mother-in-law
Leta Jane Lewis 31 Lodger


Name: Elizabeth C Parmenter
Birth Date: 22 Jan 1901
Birth Place: California, United States of America
Death Date: 7 Aug 1989
Death Place: Douglas County, Oregon, United States of America
Cemetery: Forest Lawn Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Glendale, Los Angeles County, California, United States of America

Hubby died in 1970

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 15:43

Name: Sue A Parmenter
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1932
Age: 19
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1951
Marriage Place: Los Angeles, California, USA
Spouse: Forrest J Watson
Spouse Age: 21


Name: Mary E Parmenter
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1936
Age: 22
Marriage Date: 18 Aug 1958
Marriage Place: Los Angeles, California, USA
Spouse: Carl W Francis
Spouse Age: 24

Name: Margaret J Parmenter
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1943
Age: 21
Marriage Date: 5 Sep 1964
Marriage Place: Los Angeles, California, USA
Spouse Name: Richard A Edwards
Spouse Age: 31

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 16:04

From familysearch - probably the OP's source

Name Elizabeth C Parmenter
Middle Name C
State California
Last Place of Residence Los Angeles, California
Previous Residence Postal Code 90066
Age 88
Birth Date 22 Jul 1901
Death Date 07 Aug 1989

The husband

Name Alstine Parmenter
State California
Residence Place California
Last Place of Residence Los Angeles, California
Previous Residence Postal Code 90066
Age 69
Birth Date 03 Aug 1901
Death Date Nov 1970

Name Alstine Foster Parmenter
Alias Al
Death or Burial Place Glendale, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Cemetery Forest Lawn Memorial Park
Death Date 03 Nov 1970
Birth Date 03 Aug 1901
Event Type Burial
Photograph Included Y
Note Contains Biography
A film publicist, Parmenter started his career with the Los Angeles times in the sports and auto departments. He later worked for Paramount Pictures and 20th Century Fox and for six months was publicity director for Harry Sherman Productions.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 16:45

Name: Forrest James Watson Jr
[Forrest J Watson Jr]
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1930
Birth Place: Los Angeles, California
Death Date: 26 Jul 2004
Father: Forrest J Watson
Mother: Mildred E Wise
SSN: 553367296
Signature on SSN Card: Jack Watson Jr
Relationship of Signature: Signature name differs from NH’s name.
Notes: Jun 1945: Name listed as FORREST JAMES WATSON JR; 26 Aug 2004: Name listed as FORREST J WATSON

Name: Forrest James Watson
Gender: Male
Death Age: 74
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1930
Birth Place: Los Angeles
Residence Place: Santa Barbara
Death Date: 26 Jul 2004
Obituary Date: 29 Jul 2004
Obituary Place: Medford, Jackson, Santa Barbara, Honduras
Spouse: Betsy Watson
Child: Catharine Anne Hurley
Stephan Forrest Watson
Paul Michael Watson
Lynda Sue Farrell

Marriage to second wife

Name: Forrest J Watson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1930
Age: 41
Marriage Date: 4 Dec 1971
Marriage Place: Santa Barbara, California, USA
Spouse Name: Betssy J Blanton
Spouse Age: 39


DIVORCE
Name: Sue A Parmenter
Spouse Name: Forrest J Watson
Location: Santa Barbara
Date: Aug 1968

Suggestion ONLY - linked by Ancestry to Parmenter records

Name: Sue A Watson
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1932
Age: 40
Marriage Date: 2 Sep 1972
Marriage Place: Santa Barbara, California, USA
Spouse Name: James A Mobbs
Spouse Age: 43

Name: James Alb Mobbs
Age: 51
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1928
Death Date: 10 Sep 1980
Death Place: Douglas
Spouse: Sue
Certificate: 80-14886

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2023 16:51

Another divorce

Name: Carl W Francis
Spouse Name: Mary E Parmenter
Location: Los Angeles City
Date: Mar 1966

Name: Carl Wight Francis III
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1933
Birth Place: California, United States of America
Death Date: 8 Aug 1974
Death Place: Malibu Hills, Los Angeles County, California, United States of America


Name: Mary E Francis (or Parmenter)
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1936
Age: 33
Marriage Date: 11 May 1969
Marriage Place: Los Angeles City, California, USA
Spouse Name: Samuel E Benesch
Spouse Age: 44


Name: Samuel E Benesch
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1925
Age: 44
Marriage Date: 11 May 1969
Marriage Place: Los Angeles City, California, USA
Spouse Name: Mary E Parmenter (or Francis)
Spouse Age: 33

He'd been divorced as well...........................

Name: Samuel E Benesch
Spouse Name: Edna E Vannote
Location: Los Angeles City
Date: Aug 1966

His death

Name: Samuel Eli Benesch
Death Age: 94
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1924
Death Date: 16 May 2019
Obituary Date: 19 May 2022

Enlistment WWII

Name: Samuel Eli Benesch
Race: White
Age: 18
Relationship to Draftee: Self (Head)
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1924
Birth Place: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Residence Place: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Registration Date: Dec 1942
Registration Place: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Employer: Black And Decker
Height: 6
Weight: 170
Complexion: Dark
Hair Color: Black
Eye Color: Brown
Next of Kin: Sarah Benesch

First marriage

Name: Samuel Eli Benesch
Gender: Male
Race: White
Marriage Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1925
Marriage Registration Place: Richmond, Virginia, USA
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1950
Marriage Place: Roanoke, Virginia, USA
Father: Ben Benesch
Mother: Sarah Goldberg
Spouse: Edna Earle Van Note
Certificate Number: 1950010465

Another divorce.........................................

Name: Mary E Parmenter
Spouse Name: Samuel E Benesch
Location: Los Angeles
Date: Jul 1974

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Feb 2023 11:22

Name: Mary Elizabeth Parmenter
Birth Date: 8 *** 1935
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Coutts
Birth County: Los Angeles

Name: Margaret Jean Parmenter
Birth Date: 15 *** 1942
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Coutts
Birth County: Los Angeles

Name: Margaret J Edwards
[Margaret Edwards]
Birth Date: 15 *** 1942
Residence Date: 1993
Phone Number: 497 ****
Address: *************************
Residence: Thousand Oaks, CA
Postal Code: 91360-2009
Second Phone Number: 497****
Second Address: **********
Second Residence: Oxnard, CA
Second Postal Code: 93035-2734

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Feb 2023 11:41

with father john m and family, john is a merchant
Name: Elizabeth Coutts
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Age: 9
Birth Date: abt 1901
Last Known Residence: Los Angelos., U S A
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Arrival Date: 29 Aug 1910
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Final Destination: Los Angelos, California
Ship Name: California
Search Ship Database: Search for the California in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

destination los angelos

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 22 Feb 2023 00:35

Wow you guys are incredible I am so grateful to you all.
I must apologise for not giving more information She was born in USA her parents were John Master Coutts and SUsanna taylor dewar

I will definately be going through all this information. Thank you all so much I am overwhelmed

Elizabeth