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James, Mary and Jane Tippet - gone.

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Phillip

Phillip Report 1 Apr 2023 22:29

Thank you everyone. Amazing findings from you all. Strange how BOTH James Tippets went missing!

Fair to say that Jane had a colourful life....

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2023 21:06

Name Jane Floyd
Age in 1910 66
Birth Date 1844 [1844]
Birthplace England
Home in 1910 Greenland, Ontonagon, Michigan, USA
Race White
Gender Female
Immigration Year 1875
Relation to Head of House Mother-in-law
Marital Status Widowed
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Birthplace England
Native Tongue English
Able to read No
Able to Write No
Number of Children Born 6
Number of Children Living 6
Neighbors
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Hocking
39 Head
Ada Hocking
37 Wife
Pearl Hocking
18 Step Daughter
Edward Hocking
14 Nephew
William Hocking
9 Nephew
John Hocking
42 Brother
George Floyd
20 Brother-in-law
Jane Floyd 66 Mother-in-law

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2023 21:00

Name Joseph Goard
Birth Date abt 1840
Birth Place Cornwall, England
Death Date 14 Nov 1882
Death Place Rockland, Ontonagon, Mich.
Death Age 42
Occupation Miner
Race White
Marital Status Single
Gender Male
FHL Film Number 1016585


Remarriage for Jane.


Name: Jane Tippot
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 44
Birth Date: abt 1840
Birth Place: Cornwall England
Marriage Date: 24 Feb 1884
Marriage Place: Rockland, Ontonagon, Michigan, USA
Residence Place: Rockland, Michigan
Spouse: Nicholas Floyd
Record Number: 3

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2023 20:48


FIRST NAME
Jane
LAST NAME
Guard
Marital Status
Unknown
GENDER
Female
Age at Arrival
32
Ethnicity
N/A
Place of Birth
England
Year of Birth
1844
Passenger ID
9012201302641
Date of Arrival
January 1st, 1876
Ship of Travel
Wyoming
Port of Departure
N/A


travelling with John and Ada.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2023 20:36

Just wondering about this for Jane.

Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
>>GOARD Joseph Truro 5c 264 Scan available - click to view
JAMES Maria Truro 5c 264 Scan available - click to view
ROWE John Truro 5c 264 Scan available - click to view
>>TIPPETT Jane Truro 5c 264



US Census 1880
Houghton, United States

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Goard Self Married Male 37 1843 England
>>Jane Goard Wife Married Female 38 1842 England
John Goard Son Single Male 12 1868 England
Ada Goard Daughter Single Female 7 1873 England
Joseph Goard Son Single Male 2 1878 Michigan


TIPPETT, JOHN -
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in TRURO Volume 05C Page 152

GOURD, ADA TIPPETT
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in TRURO Volume 05C Page 151

Phillip

Phillip Report 1 Apr 2023 20:35

Yes, John is a brother of James. Yet another family going to Michigan.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Apr 2023 16:12

Connected?

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1401309

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2023 15:55

Harris— At Hillhead, Ladock, Nov. 24 (after a short illness), Mary, the beloved wife of Isaac Harris, aged 73.
07 December 1893 - Royal Cornwall Gazette - Truro, Cornwall, England



HARRIS— At Ladock, Sept. 20, Isaac Harris, aged 73.
Royal Cornwall Gazette - Truro, Cornwall, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Apr 2023 12:39

Theresa and Ethel emigrated to USA in 1896, heading for Grand Rapids:

Ethel Tippett
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Ethel Tippett
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Age: 4
Birth Date: abt 1892
Departure Port: Southampton, England
Arrival Date: 4 May 1896
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: New York

James must have gone ahead of them, though I don't see a record.

Esther M Tippett [ Ethel on image ]
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Esther M Tippett [Ethel M Tippett]
Age: 9
Birth Date: Oct 1890
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Vermontville, Eaton, Michigan
House Number: 8
Sheet Number: 18
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 444
Family Number: 447
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1895
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: James Tippett
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Theresa Tippett
Mother's Birthplace: England
Years in US: 5
Occupation: At School
Attended School: 9
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Tippett 29 Head
Theresa Tippett 29 Wife
Esther M Tippett 9 Daughter

James and Theresa are on 1910, 1920, 1930, and 1940 US censuses, all in Detroit.
Theresa is listed as Eva in 1910, but otherwise always as Theresa.
They had more children, George and Thelma, after emigrating.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Apr 2023 11:40

James Isaac in 1891 ???:

James Tippett
in the 1891 England Census
Name: James Tippett
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1866
Spouse:
Therese Tippett
Child:
Ethel Millard Tippett
Birth Place: Ladock, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: St Agnes
Ecclesiastical parish: St Agnes
Residence Place: Peterville, St Agnes, Cornwall, England
Registration district: Truro
Sub registration district: St Agnes
ED, Institution or Vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 1828
Folio: 73
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Tippett 25 Head
Therese Tippett 25 Wife
Ethel Millard Tippett 5/12 Daughter [Ethel Mildred on image ]


TIPPETT, ETHEL MILDRED DUNN mmn BEEL
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in TRURO Volume 05C Page 114


???
Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
Beale Theresa Truro 5c 258
Isaac James Truro 5c 258

That marriage doesn't show up on Ancestry.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Apr 2023 10:49

Hadn't noticed that, Philip.

Posting for our reference:

Isaac Hanis
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Isaac Hanis
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: 1824
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Probus, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Ladock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 2273
Folio: 12
Page number: 15
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Isaac Hanis 47 Head
Mary Hanis 49 Wife
James J Tippett 6 Grandson - St Clement, Cornwall [ James I Tippett on image ]


Young James in 1881:

James Tippet
in the 1881 England Census
Name: James Tippet
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Probus
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street Address: Resparveth
Occupation: Farm Serv (Indoor)
Registration District: Truro
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Piece: 2306
Folio: 21
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Spry 31
Phillippa J. Spry 31
Francis E. Spry 2
Maude G. Spry 1
Arthur W. Spry
Bessie Chapman 16
Martha Salmon 16
James Tippet 16


His baptism:

James Isaac Tippet
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: James Isaac Tippet
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1865
Baptism Place: Ladock,Cornwall,England
Mother:
Jane Tippet <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I don't see his birth record.

Phillip

Phillip Report 1 Apr 2023 00:28

In 1871 there is an Isaac Hanis, 47, with Mary Hanis, 49 and Grandson James J Tippett, possibly the illegitimate son of daughter Jane?



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2023 22:52

In 1851 Mary is said to be married.

But she could well have been separated or widowed.

Possible second marriage ???

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
Harris Isaac Truro 5c 327
Tippet Mary Truro 5c 327


Mary Harris
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Mary Harris
Gender: Female
Age: 41
Relation: Wife
Estimated Birth Year: 1820
Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Ladock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Isaac Harris 38 Head
Mary Harris 41 Wife


Mary Harris
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Harris
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Isic Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Ladock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street Address: Bissick
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Agricultral Labourer Wife
Registration District: Truro
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2306
Folio: 56
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Isic Harris 58
Mary Harris 62


Mary Harris
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Harris
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Isic Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Ladock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street Address: Bissick
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Agricultral Labourer Wife
Registration District: Truro
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2306
Folio: 56
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Isic Harris 58
Mary Harris 62


Mary A Harris
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Mary A Harris
Gender: Female
Age: 71
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1820
Spouse:
Isaac Harris
Birth Place: Ladock, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Ladock
Residence Place: Bissick, Ladock, Cornwall, England
Registration district: Truro
Sub registration district: Probus
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 1826
Folio: 51
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Isaac Harris 68 Head
Mary A Harris 71 Wife [ no middle name at marriage or other census ]


Isaac Harris
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Isaac Harris
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Death Registration Place: Truro, Cornwall, United Kingdom
Death Date: Sep 1895
Inferred Death Place: Cornwall, United Kingdom
Volume: 5c
Page: 72

Phillip

Phillip Report 31 Mar 2023 21:00

Yes. Without a doubt.

Thank you very much for this. One eliminated!

alviegal

alviegal Report 31 Mar 2023 17:01

Loss of the British Ship Romance of the Lee. Her Majesty's Vice-Consul at Alexandria has forwarded a despatch to the Board of Trade, announcing the total loss of the brig Romance of the Lee, Captain G. Havelock, belonging to Cork,
07 April 1860 - Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury - Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland

This mentions James Tippett, apprentice as one of the deceased.
The brig was bound for Falmouth.


From the report of William Husband, one of the survivors.

Capt Havelock, master; Mr. W.H. Ireton, mate : Simon Byrne, cook and steward ; William Carson and William Irvine, seamen; and James Tippett, boy.
11 April 1860 - The Cornish Telegraph - Penzance, Cornwall, England

I would think this is definitely not the correct person.

alviegal

alviegal Report 31 Mar 2023 16:51

Serious fears are entertained that the well known American clipper ship Romance of the Seas, which has often been to the Thames, has foundered, with all on board. She sailed from Hong Kong on the 31st of December, since which time not the least tidings has been heard of her. The Romance of the Seas was one of the crack ships of Boston, and has made many successful trips from China. She was about 1,500 tons burden, and was largely insured.

05 July 1863 - Weekly Dispatch (London) - London, London, England

Phillip

Phillip Report 30 Mar 2023 11:00

It was via the newspaper archive. I'm like you - hard to believe he would be an apprentice at that age.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2023 10:28

What record did you find saying that the man who died in 1860 was an apprentice?

Phillip

Phillip Report 30 Mar 2023 09:06

Thank you very much for the twin find.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2023 00:21

Can't find anything on Google about the Romance of the Seas.

I wonder if this is supposed to be her - though the date is given here as 5th Feb 1860:

Romance of the Lee United Kingdom The ship was driven ashore and wrecked 200 nautical miles (370 km) west of Alexandria, Egypt with the loss of all but two of her crew. She was on a voyage from Constantinople, Ottoman Empire to an English port.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_February_1860

On looking at the death record again, the name of the ship does look like Romance of the Lee - or possibly Sea.
There's certainly no "s" at the end of the word.