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This is the family in 1921, though (like you) I don't have a sub to FMP to see the full details:

Thomas
Hornby
1912
Birthplace: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Residence: South Manchester
Chorlton
Lancashire

He's with Rosina Hornby 1884 , John Hornby 1906, Lilian Hornby 1908, Charles Stone 1881, Margaret Stone 1880, and Gladys Stone 1901.





Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Hornby John Chorlton 8c 1518
Stone Rosina Chorlton 8c 1518

Their children :

HORNBY, JOHN mmn STONE
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 738

HORNBY, SELINA mmn STONE
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 764

HORNBY, LILIAN mmn STONE
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 420

HORNBY, THOMAS mmn STONE
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 1477

1921 Census Of England & Wales
15, Orrell Street, Openshaw, South Manchester, Lancashire, England

John Hornby Head Male 1882 39 Openshaw, Lancashire, England Striker R Openshaw B & S Massey Bros Striker
Rosina Hornby Wife Female 1884 37 Openshaw, Lancashire, England Household Duty -
John Hornby Son Male 1906 14 Openshaw, Lancashire, England Seft School -
Lilian Hornby Daughter Female 1908 12 Bradford, Lancashire, England - -
Thomas Hornby Son Male 1912 9 Manchester, Lancashire, England - -
Gladys Cragg Adopted daughter Female 1902 18 Manchester, Lancashire, England - Bar Hand Palatine Cafe Oxford Rd M/c
William Stone Father Male 1850 71 Herefordshire, England

CRAGG, GLADYS (MMN) STONE
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 94

??birth parents??

CRAGG Thomas STONE Eliza 1902 Stockport Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Stockport STR/60/189

The 1921 posted by ErikaH seems different from the details I posted.
No William Stone or Gladys Cragg among the people I posted.
Perhaps the transcription's wrong - as is often the case with the 1921 census


People from the 1921 transcription I found:

Charles, Margaret and Gladys in 1901:

[DELETED WRONG INFO . WRONG FAMILY]

Thank you for that I'll check it all and see which is right

The transcription I posted matches the original, which I have checked

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
29, Taylor Street, North Manchester, Prestwich, Lancashire, England

William Stone Head Married Male 54 1847 General labourer Alderbury, Herefordshire, England
Elizabeth Stone Wife Married Female 57 1844 - Alderbury, Herefordshire, England
Rose Stone Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Skirt machinist Manchester, Lancashire, England
William Stone Son Single Male 14 1887 Errand boy Manchester, Lancashire, England
Thomas Stone Son Single Male 12 1889 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Hornby John Chorlton 8c 1518
Stone Rosina Chorlton 8c 1518

This has been provided before...................

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1384561

1911 Census For England & Wales
2 Orr Street Openshaw Manchester, South Manchester, Lancashire, England
William Stone Head Widower Male 64 1847 Labourer for bricklayer Studem Bedford
Thomas Stone Son Single Male 23 1888 Machine slotter Bedfordshire Bedford
William Stone Son Single Male 25 1886 Bricklayers labourer Bedfordshire Bedford
John Hornby Son in law Married Male 30 1881 Blacksmiths stricker Gorton Manchester
Rosina Hornby Daughter Married Female 27 1884 - Bedfordshire Bedford
Lily Hornby Granddaughter - Female 2 1909 - Openshaw Manchester
John Hornby Grandson - Male 4 1907 - Openshaw Manchester

Hornby married 7 years...5 children, of whom 3 have died

I've probably confused two different families with similar names when searching on 1921 census without a sub!

Easily done.... ;-) ;-)

There are numerous threads about this family posted by this OP

Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
Hornby Selina 1 Chorlton 8c 498

Just to let you know Erika was right with the 1921 census 15 Orrel St That was the address in 1939 also Rosina had a sister Elizabeth/Eliza so Gladis could have been hers
and in 1926 they had a daughter Doris who married a Nugent which is in the 1939 register
son William 1914 died 1914

Thank you

Sorry about the posts my line is the Hornby Line and it is spread very wide so I lose track of what I have done but with it being the 1921 census I think it is different because it is new

So sorry but when I get some thing in my head I follow it up and don't look back on here to see what I've asked for

As I said a very big Hornby line and the children are named the same I've got 39 John Hornby's

So Sorry But Thank you, you always help

I can find no trace of a birth for DORIS with parents Hornby/Stone in 1926

You may need to re-think ;-) ;-)

Have you found Gladys in 1911?
I can't see her, nor Eliza and Thomas Cragg.


Gladys seems to be in three trees on Ancestry, but none of them name her parents.
DOB 5 Sept 1902; married Harry Rhodes in 1923.
Died 8/4/1990; buried in Gorton Cemetery, Manchester

1939 Register
49 Louisa Street, Manchester, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
Harry Rhodes 07 Mar 1901 Male Turner Married 376 1
Gladys Rhodes 05 Sep 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 376 2
Harry Rhodes 30 Oct 1923 Male Apprentice Miller Engineer Single 376 3
Edwina Rhodes 08 Nov 1927 Female At School Single 376 4

The Craggs in 1921?
1921 Census Of England & Wales
4, Grayson Street, Clayton, North Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Thomas W Cragg Head
Male 1873 48 Stockport, Cheshire, England Carter George W Durdiken Farmer And Carrier
Elizabeth Cragg Wife
Female 1881 39 Openshaw, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Hilda Cragg Daughter
Female 1907 13 Openshaw, Lancashire, England - -
Rosina Cragg Daughter
Female 1919 1 Clayton, England - -
>>William Stone Boarder
Male 1886 35 Openshaw, Lancashire, England General Labourer Electro Motors Ltd Motor And Dynams Makers


and 1939

No 4 Grayson Street, Manchester, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England

Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
William T Cragg 29 Dec 1872 Male Old Age Pensioner Married 131 1
Elizabeth Cragg 26 Jun 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 131 2
Rosina Cragg 13 Jul 1919 Female Unemployed Single 131 3





Hilda with Eliza (mother) and Gladys b 1902 in 1908.

First name(s) Hilda
Locality of record Manchester Withington Workhouse
Last name Cragg
Records title Creed Register
Birth year 1907
Date range 1908 - 1909
Admission/Discharge year 1908-09
Film M 327 - 2 - 2 - 27
Admission year 1908
Record set Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911
Admission day 15
Category Institutions & organisations
Admission month Dec
Subcategory Workhouses and Poor Law
Previous residence Openshaw
Collections from England, Great Britain

Yes, that looks like them.

CRAGG, HILDA mmn STONE
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE Volume 08D Page 500

CRAGG, ROSE mmn STONE
GRO Reference: 1919 S Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 609

Hilda in 1911 ??

Hilda Cragg
in the 1911 England Census
Name Hilda Cragg
Age in 1911 3
Estimated Birth Year abt 1908
Relation to Head Boarder
Gender Female
Birth Place Clayton M/Cr, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Droylsden
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 290 Market Street Droylsden M/C
Registration District Number 468
Sub-registration district Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel 07
Piece 24373
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Jepson 28 Head
Nellie Jepson 25 Wife
Ethel Jepson 1 Daughter
Samuel Whitehead 66
Hilda Cragg 3 Boarder

Clayton is in Ashton-under-Lyne RD


Still no sign of Gladys in 1911.