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Hello
I wondered if anyone might be able to help me find Joseph on the 1901 and 1921 censuses please?
I have his birth certificate born 19th March 1898 in Liscard, Cheshire. His parents Joseph Hodgin and Lily Wilson Hodgin nee Sweeting. I also have them on the 1911 census which I will post below.

Joseph Hodgin
in the 1911 England Census
Name Joseph Hodgin
Age in 1911 31
Estimated Birth Year abt 1880
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Guidebrige, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Walker
County/Island Northumberland
Country England
Street Address 1589 Walker Rd Walker
Marital Status Married
Occupation Engine Driver New Ship Yard
Registration District Number 559
Sub-registration district Longbenton
ED, institution, or vessel 18
Piece 30790
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph Hodgin 31 Head
Hodgin 31 Wife
Joseph William Hodgin 13 Son
Sarah Lilian Hodgin 11 Daughter
Mary Jane Hodgin 8 Daughter
George Hodgin 5 Son
Josephine Hodgin 3 Daughter

Thank you

From FMP for accurate places of birth

1911 Census For England & Wales
1589 Walker Road Walker on Tyne, Walker, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Hodgin Head Married Male 31 1880 Engine driver new ship yard Lancs Guidebrige
- Hodgin Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Staffordshire Birmingham
Joseph William Hodgin Son - Male 13 1898 School Cheshire New Brighton
Sarah Lilian Hodgin Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Yorks Sheffield
Mary Jane Hodgin Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Derbyshire Heeley
George Hodgin Son - Male 5 1906 School Cheshire Birkenhead
Josephine Hodgin Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Yorks Conisboro

This looks like him in 1921

1921 Census Of England & Wales
10, Dearne Street, Conisbrough, Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
George Sweeton Head Male 1843 78 Yorkshire, England - -
Sarah Sweeton Wife Female 1871 49 Killamarsh, Derbyshire, England - -
Joseph William Hodgen Grandson Male 1898 23 New Brighton, Cheshire, England Hand Bottle Labourer Belower Kilne Labourer
Arthur Burton Lodger Male 1868 53 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England General Labourer Brick Works Labourer Brick Works

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Although this may well be the same person in 1911 - so has he been recorded twice in 1911?
New Brighton would appear to be a part of Wallasey

1911 Census For England & Wales
10 Dearne Street Conisboro, Conisbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Wilson Head Married Male 70 1841 Labourer Yorkshire Holden
Sarah Wilson Wife Married Female 61 1850 - Derbyshire Killamarsh
Joseph William Hodgin Grandson Married Male 13 1898 School Wallasey Cheshire
George Round - - Male 36 1875 - Worcestershire

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His birth - the only one by that name 1898 +/- 2
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HODGIN, JOSEPH WILLIAM WILSON
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 575

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Parents marriage?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
Atkinson Michael Liverpool 8b 305
Hodgin Joseph Liverpool 8b 305
McGunningham Margaret Liverpool 8b 305
Sweeting Lily Wilson Liverpool 8b 305

Brilliiant thats him...thank you very much :-)

Thats the birth record i have. it does say Lily Wilson. I just thought the Sweeting had been missed off :-S

Grandparents are Sweeton in 1921 and Wilson in 1911. No time at the moment to chase up why the difference

Siblings also have mmn Wilson.


HODGIN, GEORGE mmn WILSON
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 448

HODGIN, JOSEPHINE mmn WILSON
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in DONCASTER Volume 09C Page 875

HODGIN, MARY JANE mmn WILSON
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 476


The mother is Wilson in 1881 and 1891.

Thank you for all that you have done

The marriage in 1897 was between Joseph Hodgin and Lily Wilson Sweeting
All a little odd

Lily's father was entered onn the marriage certificate as William Wilson Sweeting an Engine Driver

Is Sarah (Lily's mother) perhaps with a different partner in 1921??

The father is named William Wilson in 1911, but George Sweeton in 1921.

I don't see a marriage, but she and Lily may have taken his name.

EDIT:
On second thoughts - no.
Lily had already added Sweeton/Sweeting to her name by 1897.

At 10 Dearne Street 1921-23:

George Sweeton [ with Sarah Sweeton and Joseph William Hodgin ]
in the West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962
Name George Sweeton
Residence Date 1923
Residence Place Don Valley, West Yorkshire, England
Street Address 10 Dearne Street
Reference Number DON-V:2/7


William Wilson is listed there 1910-15.

British Army Service Records

First name(s) Joseph William
Regiment York And Lancaster Regiment
Last name Hodgin
Unit / Battalion 8th, 3rd Reserve Battalion, 1/5th Depot
Birth year 1898
Series WO 363
Birth town New Brighton
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Birth county Cheshire
Archive The National Archives
Birth country England
Record set British Army Service Records
Age 18
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Year 1917
Subcategory First World War
Service number 42149

A Glassblower when he enlisted 6.6.16 and was mobilised on 23 April 1917 at Pontefract to the Yorks and Lancs Regiment, No. 42149. First joined for duty 23/6/1917. Went to France 27.7.1917 to 29.12.1917f when wounded Dec 1917. Home.
Further to France with BEF 25.8.1918 for Italy to 27..4.1919
Discharged 20 April 1919 on compassionate grounds
Address of NOK on one document is Grandfather at 10 Dearne Street, Conisboro, Nr Rotherham
Single at this point

S. Sweeton of 10 Dearne St writes to the Regt, asking after her Boy, not having heard from him for 3 weeks. Reply 19.11.1918, still serving with unit.

An earlier form gives his NOK as his Father - Joseph Hodgin of 34 ? Shackleton Street, Newcastle on Tyne

Awarded British War Medal and victory Medal

He writes to ? who, saying he has lost his Discharge papers and describing himself as a bit of a down and out and says he could do with bit of help from the British Legion. This appears to be late in 1931 with an address of 157 South Street, Highfields, Nr Doncaster

Amazing thank you both for your kind help <3

His Father in 1921 whose wife is once again as per 1911 census shown as Mrs Hodgin
1921 Census Of England & Wales
46, Charlton Street, Gateshead, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Joseph Hodgin Head Male 1879 42 Lancashire, England Engine Driver Sir Wiliam Aroll Contracors Pipewelgate
- Hodgin Wife Female 1879 42 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England At Home -
Sarah Lilian Hodgin Daughter Female 1899 21 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England At Home -
George Hodgin Son Male 1905 15 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Errand Boy Newcastle Grill
Josephine Hodgin Daughter Female 1907 14 Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England - -

1901 census could be interesting but under what name ??

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Hague Lane, Eckington, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

William Wilson Head Married Male 56 1835 Railway engine driver Loxton, Yorkshire, England
Sarah Wilson Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Killamarsh, Derbyshire, England
Annie Wilson Daughter Single Female 18 1873 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
William Wilson Son Single Male 22 1869 General labourer Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Lilly Wilson Daughter Single Female 12 1879 - Birmingham

On the 1921 census George Sweeton (Sweeting) shows as being born in Laxon, Yorks.

Could this be Laxton - East Riding, 2 miles East of Howden and in the Howden RD

One of these births?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SWEETING, GEORGE SLATER
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in HOWDEN Volume 23 Page 62

NO - His death -
Name: Age at Death (in years):
SWEETING, GEORGE 0
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in HOWDEN Volume 23 Page 45

So this birth -

GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in HOWDEN Volume 23 Page 45
SWEETING, GEORGE PINDER


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1843 (>99%)
Bedford Ann Howden 23 81
Bennett William Howden 23 81
COATES George Howden 23 81
Dyson Hannah Howden 23 81
Pinder Martha Howden 23 81
PRATT Mary Howden 23 81
Rushforth John Howden 23 81
SWEETING John Howden 23 81

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Laxton, Howden, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Sweeting Head Married Male 28 1823 Farm labourer Adlingfleet, Yorkshire, England
Martha Sweeting Wife Married Female 27 1824 Labourer's wife Laxton, Yorkshire, England
George Sweeting Son - Male 7 1844 Labourer son Laxton, Yorkshire, England
Catharine Sweeting Daughter - Female 3 1848 Labourer daughter Laxton, Yorkshire, England
Henry Sweeting Son - Male 1 1850 Labourer daughter Laxton, Yorkshire, England

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
South Duffield, Selby, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Sweeting Head Married Male 38 1823 Farm labourer Yorkshire, England
Martha Sweeting Wife Married Female 37 1824 Farm labourers wife Yorkshire, England
Catherine Sweeting Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 - Yorkshire, England
Henry Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 10 1851 - Yorkshire, England
Jabez Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 - Yorkshire, England
Charles Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 - Yorkshire, England
Edward Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Yorkshire, England
Richard Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Yorkshire, England
John Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 0 1861 - South Duffield, Yorkshire, England

WILSON, LILLY BATTY
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 343

Lilly’s birthplace shown as Birmingham in 1911 and 1921(above)

1911 census for 10 Dearne Street, Conisbrough

William Wilson, Head
Sarah Wilson, Wife
Joseph William HODGIN, grandson