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8 May 2024 17:46 |
Hello, please could I have a look up for the above. He was born 1897 India and is at Toxteth Park, Lancs. I would like to know his address and his occupation. According to his obituary in the Sunderland Daily Echo dated 14 February 1949 it says Dr P Madan aged 51 Wearside physician and surgeon etc, could someone look at the full article.
He married Blanche Witty or Arthur 1925 Liverpool. There is a Blanche Witty in Blackpool, Lancs in 1921 (says born Bristol) with about 50 odd other people! I'd like a look at her also. I can't see a Blanche Arthur on the 1921 census.
Their daughter Sheila Thelma was born 1925 Liverpool maiden name Arthur on FreeBMD. No mother's maiden name on GRO indexes.
There is a Blanche Arthur who married John Witty 1920 Basford area but is this Blanche?
No sign of Parmanand, Blanche or Thelma on 1939 register.
Thank you.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 May 2024 18:07 |
Have you bought the marriage cert to see what her marital status was on marriage
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8 May 2024 18:22 |
I haven't Shirley.
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8 May 2024 18:23 |
1939 register
Name Parmanaud Madan Gender Male Marital Status Married Birth Date 5 Mar 1897 Residence Date 1939 Address 4 Residence Place Sunderland, Durham, England Occupation Medical Practitioner Line Number 20 Schedule Number 98 Sub Schedule Number 1 Enumeration District Fdph Borough Sunderland Registration district 555 4 Civil Defense Role A.r.p. Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year Parmanaud Madan Male 1897 married. No wife listed Hannah I Heptinstall Female 1898 widow Agnes M Heptinstall Female 1926 single
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8 May 2024 18:23 |
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1921 Census Of England & Wales 72, Mulgrave Street, Liverpool, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
He was boarding at the above address Parmanand Madan Boarder Male 1897 24 India Medical Student -
Marital status ********** Widowed ******** Ward of borough or urban district Granby Birth place India Parliamentary borough or division Liverpool PB, East Toxteth Div. Birth country India Archive The National Archives Birth place as transcribed ********** Salowald, Sialkot The Punjab India Archive series RG 15 Education Whole-Time Piece number 17468 Occupation Medical Student District reference RD 454 RS 3 ED 28 Occupation code 568 Schedule type code E Occupation code with suffix 568/6 Schedule type England household, single page, 10 entries Place of work *************Medical School University Liverpool****
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parmanand Madan in 1925 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Liverpool, Lancashire, England View original record Add to tree Print More actions Transcript of Parmanand's record Copy to clipboard First name(s) Parmanand County Lancashire Last name Madan Country England Marriage quarter 3 Volume 8B Marriage year 1925 Volume as transcribed 8B Registration month - Page number 521 MarriageFinder™ Parmanand Madan married one of these people Blanche Arthur Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Spouse's last name Witty Or Arthur Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Liverpool Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce District number - Collections from Great Britain, England
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8 May 2024 18:25 |
England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019 Great Britain
Parmanand Madan in 1949 England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019 Great Britain First name(s) Parmanand Residence town - Last name Madan Linked persons Blanche Madan Death year 1949 Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019 Death date 13 Feb 1949 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Probate year 1949 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Probate date 17 Jun 1949 Collections from Great Britain, UK None Probate registry Durham
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 May 2024 18:26 |
Marriages Mar 1920 Arthur Blanche Witty Basford 7b 395 Witty John Arthur Basford 7b 395
Edit both were aged 25
John witty was a boat builder father Arthur james witty
Blanche no occupation father siegmund Arthur jeweller
Edit Looks like there was a divorce!
Name John Witty Gender Male Marital Status Married Birth Date 30 Jan 1895 Residence Date 1939 Address 48 Residence Place West Bridgford, Nottinghamshire, England Occupation Boat Builder (Master) >>>>>>>>> Line Number 18 Schedule Number 196 Sub Schedule Number 1 Enumeration District Rnsp Borough West Bridgford Registration district 429-2 Inferred Spouse Annie Witty Inferred Children John H Witty Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year John Witty Male 1895 Annie Witty Female 1895 John H Witty Male 1932
Name Annie Wahlen Registration Date Jul 1926 [Aug 1926] [Sep 1926] Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district Basford Inferred County Nottinghamshire Spouse John Witty Volume Number 7b Page number 416
Birth WITTY, JOHN HEATON GRO Reference: 1932 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 512
Free bmd has mmn as Warren!
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Marian
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8 May 2024 18:30 |
Thank you Shirley and Jinx. Can you let me know where Blanche is in 1921 please.
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8 May 2024 18:32 |
Births Dec 1925 Madan Sheila T Arthur Liverpool 8b 403
Never married
Title Ms Area Cleveland First name(s) Sheila Thelma Postcode area TS Last name Madan Postcode district TS26 Sex Female Postcode sector TS26 9 Birth year 1926 County Durham Birth date 1926 Country England Age 82 Record set England & Wales Deaths 2007-2021 Death year 2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death date 21 Feb 2008 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Residence Hartlepool Collections from England, Great Britain, Wales
Will be a closed record on the 1939 register
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8 May 2024 18:34 |
Your Blanche??
1921 Census Of England & Wales Palatine Hotel, Blackpool, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Blanche Full address as transcribed Palatine Hotel, Blackpool Last name Witty Parish Blackpool Sex Female Registration district Fylde Birth year 1896 Registration district number 477 Census date 19 June 1921 Sub-district Blackpool North Age in years 25 Sub-district number 4 Age in months 6 Enumeration district number 28 Age as transcribed 25 y 6 m County Lancashire Relationship to head Visitor Country England Marital status Married Ward of borough or urban district Bank Hey Birth place Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Parliamentary borough or division Blackpool PB Birth town Bristol Archive The National Archives Birth county Gloucestershire Archive series RG 15 Birth country England Piece number 20786 Birth place as transcribed Warsaw, Poland, Bristol Page 3 Occupation Traveller (Commercial) District reference RD 477 RS 4 ED 28 Occupation code 773 Schedule type code EEE Occupation code with suffix 773/6 Schedule type England household, multiple page, 70 entries Employer Yoonne A Menazdis Other household member's first name(s) ? John, Alfred, Alice, Arthur Holme, Arthur, Cecil George Firth, Christopher Redmond, Eliza Dard, Ernest Guy, Frank, Fred, George Paghing, Gertrude, Grace Flora, Harold James, Herbert Henry, Hugh, Ida Rose Employer code 345 Other household member's last name Miller, Foinquinos, Hoyle, Lees, Fellon, Oxby, Adams, Pentercost, Waticher, Whiteby, Beam, Fellingham, Thornley, Woods, Cook, Hall, Grahame, Bird Place of work London, No Fixed Place Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales Language used to complete form English Category Census, land & surveys Person making return Percy Arthur Spencer Subcategory Census Street Palatine Hotel Collections from Great Britain, England Address Palatine Hotel
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8 May 2024 18:37 |
This looks like Blanche in 1921
1921 Census Of England & Wales Palatine Hotel, Blackpool, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Blanche Full address as transcribed Palatine Hotel, Blackpool Last name Witty Parish Blackpool Sex Female Registration district Fylde Birth year 1896 Registration district number 477 Census date 19 June 1921 Sub-district Blackpool North Age in years 25 Sub-district number 4 Age in months 6 Enumeration district number 28 Age as transcribed 25 y 6 m County Lancashire Relationship to head Visitor Country England Marital status Married Ward of borough or urban district Bank Hey Birth place Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Parliamentary borough or division Blackpool PB Birth town Bristol Archive The National Archives Birth county Gloucestershire Archive series RG 15 Birth country England Piece number 20786 Birth place as transcribed Warsaw, Poland, Bristol Page 3 Occupation Traveller (Commercial) District reference RD 477 RS 4 ED 28 Occupation code 773 Schedule type code EEE Occupation code with suffix 773/6 Schedule type England household, multiple page, 70 entries Employer Yoonne A Menazdis Other household member's first name(s) ? John, Alfred, Alice, Arthur Holme, Arthur, Cecil George Firth, Christopher Redmond, Eliza Dard, Ernest Guy, Frank, Fred, George Paghing, Gertrude, Grace Flora, Harold James, Herbert Henry, Hugh, Ida Rose Employer code 345 Other household member's last name Miller, Foinquinos, Hoyle, Lees, Fellon, Oxby, Adams, Pentercost, Waticher, Whiteby, Beam, Fellingham, Thornley, Woods, Cook, Hall, Grahame, Bird Place of work London, No Fixed Place Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales Language used to complete form English Category Census, land & surveys Person making return Percy Arthur Spencer Subcategory Census Street Palatine Hotel Collections from Great Britain, England Address Palatine Hotel
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Marian
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8 May 2024 18:40 |
Thank you both, much appreciated.
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8 May 2024 18:42 |
I can read the newspaper article is there anything specific you would like to know?
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8 May 2024 18:44 |
Wrong birth year but ?
1939 Register Grange House, Alston, Alston with Garrigill R.D., Cumberland, England 1939 register badge View original record Add to tree Print More actions Household members (6 people) Copy to clipboard First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number Amelia Rochester 24 Oct 1875 Female Boarding-House Proprietor Widowed 18 1 John J Stockdale 04 Feb 1919 Male Bank Clerk Single 18 2 Percy Mills 06 Dec 1915 Male Motor Driver & Co-Operative Grocery Salesman Single 18 3 Maurice Wilson 27 May 1920 Male Locomotive Cleaner Single 18 4 Blanche Madan 22 Dec 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 18 5 The record for this person is officially closed. Closed record couid be Sheila
Her birth date is covered so 1900 isn’t what it’s says
Looks like the blanking slipped upwards
The closed record shows birth of 30th nov 1925 so that IS Sheila
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8 May 2024 18:52 |
Sheila's birth from GRO:
MADAN, SHEILA THELMA mmn ARTHUR GRO Reference: 1925 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 403
From 1925 onwards, GRO only shows mmn if you have entered it as a search term.
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8 May 2024 18:56 |
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Deaths Dec 1954 Madan Blanche M 69 Kensington 5c 983
Deaths June 1977 MADAN BLANCHE 23DE1898 N CLEVELAND 3 2715
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Marian
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8 May 2024 19:10 |
Hello Jinx, the article on FMP stops at Wearside physician and surgeon who had practised...... , I just wondered what it said after that - thanks. Thank you for the 1939 Shirley. Argyll, I didn't realise that about the GRO thanks.
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8 May 2024 19:28 |
". . . . who had practised in Fern Terrace, Southwick, for more than 20 years, died at his home yesterday following a long illness. A prominent Freemason for more than 16 years. Dr Madan was a Past Master of the Vedra Lodge, and member of Vedra Mark Lodge. Before coming to Sunderland. Dr Madan had previously practised In Manchester for three years. He is survived by widow and one daughter. "
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Marian
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8 May 2024 19:33 |
Thank you Argyll.
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8 May 2024 20:06 |
Just one of a huge number of entries, over many years:
Parmanand Madan in the UK and Ireland, Medical Registers, 1859-1943 Name Parmanand Madan Registration Date 28 Jul 1922 Registration Place England Residence or Employment Date 1928 Residence or Employment Place 6, Fern Avenue, Southwickon-Wear
Qualifications: LRCP, Edinburgh 1922; LRCS, Edinburgh 1922; LRFPS, Glasgow, 1922.
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