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RON sorry its late 1901 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 72 Household Members: Elizabeth Patfield 55 HD WID NAIL MAKER bn Dudley, Worcestershire, Florrie Patfield 18 DAU bn Dudley, Worcestershire, John Patfield 11 SON bn Dudley, Worcestershire, William Patfield 15 SON CLAY PIPE WORKER bn Dudley, Worcestershire, address 78 cawney hill ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DEATH Name: WILLIAM HENRY PATFIELD Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 57 District: Dudley (To 1912) County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 60 regards debs

Hi Debbie Will you please look in1851 Staffs, probably Tipton or thereabouts for Mary Cartwright born abt 1845 in Tipton and Edward Cartwright born about 1839 also in Tipton. Thanks in advance John

Hi DEBS A very Happy New Year to you and yours and hope all's well. V grateful as ever if you could check out the following in 1861 and 1871 please. George MUNDAY B.1857 Long Crendon. Many thanks COLIN

JOHN have you found them in any other census??? if you haVE can you let me know the details please theres this in 1851 Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Bilston ED, institution, or vessel: 1k Household schedule number: 214 Household Members: EDWARD CARTWRIGHT 19 SON Harriet Cartwright 24 DAU-IN-LAW Mary Cartwright 48 HD Mary Ann Cartwright 3 GRANDDAUGHTER William Cartwright 33 HD Caleb Hill 20 LODGER William Loe 22 LODGER Edmund Moreton 43 VISITOR Mary Moreton 34 VISITOR Sarah Moreton 6 REGARDS DEBS

HI COLIN its been awhile since i have heard from you... hope all is well have found these 2 , have a look and let me know ok 1861 George Munday,,,parents David and Catherine abt 1860 Bow Brickhill, Buckinghamshire, England Son Bow Brickhill Buckinghamshire George Munday,,,,,,parents Charles and Mary abt 1860 Stoke Mandeville, Buckinghamshire, England Son Stoke Mandeville Buckinghamshire best wishes debs

Hi Debbie Cartwright family Thanks for trying to find my Cartwrights. I have the family in 1841 Thomas 25 yo. Ann wife 15 yo Edward son 10 mo living in Canal St Tipton In 1861 they are still in Tipton Brick Kiln Lane, but the family is now Thomas 50 Labr, Ann 43, Edward is in Stafford Prison, Mary 16 John13 and Alice 3. However, whilst they should be in Tipton, they seem to have disappeared from the 1851 census and I asked you to look for Edward and Mary seperately, as I thought that they may be found somewhere else other than at home which might give a clue to where the rest of family was. Any more help would be greatly appreciated. John Thomas

Hi DEBS Yes, all's well here thanks. Could be either of the George Munday's you found. I'm trying to tie up loose ends. I have George and an Elizabeth MUNDAY B 1855 both marrying Cadles from Long Crendon. If either of the two you found had a sister Elizabeth I guess that could be it! Many thanks COLIN

HI COLIN these are all the people thats in the household 1861 Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub-registration district: Fenny Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Elizabeth Kenny 20 VISITOR STRAW PLAITER bn Great Brickhill, Buckinghamshire Catherine Munday 24 WI STRAW BONNET SEWER bn Bow Brickhill, Buckinghamshire, David Munday 26 HD AG LAB bn Bow Brickhill, Buckinghamshire, GEORGE MUNDAY 1 SON bn Bow Brickhill, Buckinghamshire Susan Munday 4 DAU bn Bow Brickhill, Buckinghamshire, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1861 Registration district: Wycombe Sub-registration district: Wendover ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Charles Munday 33 HD FARM LAB bn Wendover, Buckinghamshire, GEORGE MUNDAY 8 Mo SON bn Stoke Mandeville, Buckinghamshire, Mary Munday 31 WI bn Wendover, Buckinghamshire, Mary Ann Munday 2 DAU bn Wendover, Buckinghamshire, address hall end ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1861 Registration district: Wycombe Sub-registration district: Great Marlow ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 96 Household Members: Nam Eliza Mundey 16 DAU bn Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire Emma Mundey 9 DAU bn Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire GEORGE MUNDAY 1 SON bn Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire Harriet Mundey 46 WI bn Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire John Mundey 52 HD bn Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire Rosa Mundey 6 DAU bn Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, best wishes debs

Hello Debra thank you for your offer. I am trying to unravel a family mystery around my grandfathers family origins. Older living relatives tell me is family were from Gainsborough and surrounding villages like scotter, scotton, scotterthorpe as they were agricultural labourers so moved around alot. My definite seaches have my granfathers fatrher as Charles William Hudson b1889 in East Halton in Lincolnshire, he was married to Lucy Leaning b1890( marriage certificate I have lists Charles' father as William, and the certificate is countersigned by Clara Ellen Hudson( sister i think?), they were married on 17/5/1909 in Primitive Methodist Chapel in Scunthorpe. It is Williams parents and siblings that I have an issue with as they seem to descend from Boston area of Lincolnshire which is a long way from Gainsborough? have I mixed up his parents as on the census returns there are lots and lots of hudsons at that time in the gainsborough area. Many thanks if you can find anymore info,and if you need anymore from me let me know!!

Hi DEBS Many thanks as always for the info. Not sure it's the right one but thanks anyway. All the best COLIN

Hi Can I please have a lookup in the 1891 & 1901 census for: Kate Taylor b. 1865 Battersea, Wandsworth, London, Surrey. She is living with her family in 1881 at 3a George St, Battersea. Father William, Mother Emma. Also the 1901 census for the family of Charles Thomas Laws living Wandsworth and the family of Samuel Sparks living Wandsworth. Born c 1860. Thanks Zena

ZENA WHAT YEAR WAS CHARLES THOMAS LAWS BORN AS THERE ARE QUITE A LOT OF THEM CHEERS DEBS

Hi Debra Charles Thomas Laws is b. 1861 Westminister, London and should be with Martha in the 1901 census. Dont worry now with Samuel Sparks as I think Charles Laws is the one I want. Thanks Zena

ZENA is this them?? 1901 Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: CHARLES T LAWS 40 HD GAS WORKS bn Westminster, London, Charles T Laws 10 SON bn Wandsworth Emily Laws 65 GRANDMOTHER MARRIED ,,,,SECRETARY PHONIC TEMPERANCE SOCIETY bn Westminster Emily Martha Laws 14 DAU TYPEWRITER APPRENTICE bn Wandsworth MARTHA LAWS 39 WI bn Chelsea May L Laws 12 DAU bn Wandsworth Susanah E Laws 7 DAU bn Wandsworth address 14 ferrier st ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1891 Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household Members: CHARLES T LAWS 29 HD GAS Charles T Laws 6 months SON Emily M Laws 4 DAU MARTHA LAWS 29 WI and next door his the GRANDMOTHER from 1901 above Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household Members: Charles S Laws 64 HD GAS EMILY LAWS 54 WI Emily Martha Laws 1 Martha A Laws 23 DAU-IN-LAW MAR Thos E Laws 17 SON Maria L Summerby 20 DAU WID Emily L Summersby 3 months GRAND DAUGHTER address 14 ferrier st ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, MARRIAGES OF CHARLES THOMAS LAWS 1885 Oct-Nov-Dec Wandsworth London, Surrey AND MARTHA TAYLOR 1885 Oct-Nov-Dec Wandsworth London, Surrey and on same day SAMUEL SPARKS 1885 Oct-Nov-Dec Wandsworth London, Surrey ELLEN JANE WATKINSON 1885 Oct-Nov-Dec Wandsworth London, Surrey ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1881 the grandmother from above Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household Members: CHARLES LAWS 54 HD BRICKLAYER Charles Laws 19 SON BRICKLAYER EMILY LAWS 44 WI George Laws 16 SON Maria Laws 10 DAU Thomas Laws 7 SON address 13 ferrier st ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1871 grandmother from above Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: St John Westminster ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 154 Household Members: CHARLES LANS 42 HD BRICKLAYER Charles Lans 9 SON EMILY LANS 35 WI George Lans 6 SON Gio Moncrieff 30 BOARDER CABINET MAKER address wilton st ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hope this helps you regards debs

Hi Debra Many thanks for all that. A great help and another door closed. I see May L Laws is not on the 1891 census and age 12 on the 1901 census. Could you have a quick peep for me to see where she is. Thanks again Zena

Hi Debie Would you mind having another look in 1851 for my Cartwrights in Staffs using the additional info which I sent on the 25th Thanks in advance John

JOHN can you let me know the exact info you have re cartwright in 1841 please cheers debs

Hi Debbie Cartwright in 1841 - Canal Street, Tipton Thomas C 25 yo Forgeman Y Ann (wife) 15 Edward 10 mo In 1861 they are at 204 Brick kiln lane Tipton Thomas 50 Labourer Tipton. Ann 43 Mary 16 John 13 Alice 3 Edward 20 was in Stafford Prison. But no sign of Thomas, Ann Edward or Mary in 1851 Wish you could solve this one for me. Could it be that there are missing pages? Regards John

JOHN have had a really good look for you but nothing, are you sure Ann was only 15yrs old in 1841?? tried variations of the surname but still nothing also looked on the IGI but nothing there thats obvious either regards debs

Hi |Debbie Thanks for looking again. Ann was actually born in 1820, so they must have rounded her age down. They have obviously been missed in the census, either not recorded or some pages missing from the transcript. Thank you very much for trying, it will have to stay on the books as unsolved. regards John