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Two Samuel J marriages for JAS 56 JUNE Richards - Wednesbury SYLVIA Collins - Rother V.

Deb where you up to with Samuel Marriages? ok mate

Done 53. 54, 55 doing 56

I'm doing 1957 for Samuel None for '57 None for ' 58 1961 J-S Samuel J Married Winifred Clancy Bedwelty 1962 J-M Samuel JMarried Valerie Hubbits Wolverhampton 1962 J-S Samuel J Married Mary B Abbott Durham NW 1962 J-S Samuel J Married Hilda R Preston Northwich I've only checked up to 1962 Will be checking James S Smith Marriages from 1953

Ill do 1960 and work backwards now then

Nothing for 1960 and if you think about it, he was on his own there in 1959 Oct so its less likely he married prior to that Ill do 1959 in full though

JFM 59 married PATRICIA A. Stapleton in Liverpool north ( middle name could be Adriana i suppose - think its more liekly shes a sister though) because of James being on his own there in Oct '59

What years did you do for an Adrina Birth? Im going to have to log off in a bit. :(

Deb only done 1943 so far I am looking at 1936 as we speak for Adriana and Beryl

Ill do a quick check on 38, 39, 40 for Adriana as thats the most likely judging by the time she turns up on the register, then im going to have to log off and start again tomorrow unfortunatly. :(

No Adriana for '38 No Adriana for '39

Ok Deb I'll keep looking i got to go at 6:15 pick up daughter and do some dinner but i will be back on it later tonight so don't forget to check back tomorrow anyway glad i could help a bit xx Kath x

Thanks very much for your help, Ive been trying to crack this for ages and it looks like theres a chance at last. Thanks sooo much, Ill just finish '40 then log off. Speak soon, Deb

Nothing for '40 either. Bye for now. Thanks again

Births Checked Beryl for ,1928,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43 Checked Adriana for 1928,29,30,31,32,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43 (found her marring James S Smith see below) Beryl E Smith 1936 O-D Lutterworth 7a 6 MMN Matthews No Beryls unless the one above is her?? So maybe Beryl is wife of Kenneth Smith ??

FOUND IT!!!!!!!! 1957 O-D James S Smith Married ADRIANA MEURIS Birmingham 9c 323 :D

Deb Meuris very uncommon name doubt it is English

Thanks! Wonder why he was on his own in '59 though. Strange. Did you get my email about the Beryl - Kenneth marriage not being the right one. So that still leaves us with a Beryl that was 21 and in the house in 1957. Im beginning to hate this household, LOL!

As an afterthought, when i ordered the death cert for the right ish time for Samuels disappearance off the boards (hoping it would show Maud as a wife or a sons name as informant) it showed the right address and an E. A. Probert as a sister in law. Which didnt seem much help at the time. Well she couldnt be his sister (or it would be in law), she couldnt be his brothers wife (or she'd be a sister), she couldnt be his wifes unmarried sister (or shed be a Matthews) so she must be the wifes sister who got married. So she was listed as living in Birmingham. So i'd say that if we're right on the other fronts then theres a E.A.Matthews marrying a Probate in Birmingham probably around the 20's-40's. Not thats that helps much, it just ties in all the loose ends and makes the whole thing much more likely. x Deb

Hi Deb well i'd already thought of that hun lol and here are all the E A Matthews births and Maud's I checked from 1898 to 1909 Edith Ada M Matthews 1901 j-m Birmingham Edith Annie Matthews 1902 j-m Birm Elizabeth Annie 1908 j-m Aston Ellen Amelia 1903 j-s Birm Enid Aelfreda 1906 a-j Stourbridge Elizabeth Ada 1901 j-m Aston Maud 1905 j-s Birm Maud 1907 o-d Birm Maud 1901 Nuneaton K x