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Willaim and jane spackman, appear at best to live in the same house or are maybe even only neighbours , i'd leave then out of things until you come across something that say they are related , because i am not sure that they are

Andy The HO numbers are for 1841 census to help you find the entry. 1841 census is not yet online in its entirety, so you'll need to see if Wiltshire is available online or go to the FRC.[family records centre, in London, which has all the censuses]. Incidentally HO stands for Home Office and the 1841 and 1851 censuses have these numbers. 1861 onwards has RG for Registrar General, so 1861 is RG9 plus the piece & folio numbers & pages, RG 10 is 1871 and so on. nell

dont now who the spachmans are there just on the document i have from wiltshire family society.can you tell me when you quote the document numbers how can i see all the document . sorry my replys are a little slow Thanks Andy

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Assuming jacob was wife to hannah one of these id probably his death Jacob Gale 1840 Jul-Aug-Sep Cricklade Wiltshire Jacob Gale 1841 Jan-Feb-Mar Cricklade Wiltshire

There is a Jacob Gale marrying a Hannah in Cliffe Pypard according to the IGI JACOB GALE Male Family Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH COOK Family Marriage: 14 SEP 1831 Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England

andrew- the earliest i can do is 1851. Mum Hannah, yes, dad, Dont know. Who are the spackmans? Ann Gale abt 1841 Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England Daughter Cliffe Pypard Wiltshire Eliza Gale abt 1836 Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England Daughter Cliffe Pypard Wiltshire Hannah Gale abt 1811 Beshaptone, Wiltshire, England Head Cliffe Pypard Wiltshire Jane Gale abt 1847 Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England Daughter Cliffe Pypard Wiltshire John Gale abt 1832 Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England Son Cliffe Pypard Wiltshire Jane Spackman abt 1823 Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England Wife Cliffe Pypard Wiltshire William Spackman abt 1822 Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England Head Cliffe Pypard Wiltshire

henry 1901 Ellen Gale abt 1871 Scotland Wife Workington Cumberland George Gale abt 1892 Workington, Cumberland, England Son Workington Cumberland Henry Gale abt 1871 Monmouthshire, Wales Head Workington Cumberland Henry Gale abt 1895 Workington, Cumberland, England Son Workington Cumberland Rebina Gale abt 1899 Workington, Cumberland, England Daughter Workington Cumberland Ruth Gale abt 1891 Workington, Cumberland, England Daughter Workington Cumberland

after all your help found John Gale 1832 his mum & dad Jacod 1809& Hannah 1808 and jocobs mum & dad no dates as yet William & Elizabath ?

did henry marry Ellen ? and call daughter Ruth? sounds reasonable to me 1891-henry Ellen Gale abt 1870 Workington, Cumberland, England Wife Seaton Cumberland Henry Gale abt 1870 Bryn Mawr, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Seaton Cumberland Ruth J Gale abt 1890 Workington, Cumberland, England Daughter Seaton Cumberland zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz possibly his marriage Ellen Bartley 1890 Oct-Nov-Dec Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland Henry Gale 1890 Oct-Nov-Dec Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 976 (click to see others on page)

have added 1861 back with 1871 who was it in particular you were interested in? Henry?

only a little joke helen Thank you

Thanks will do! Will do a bit more hunting about now i know you will come back, if eventually!

Andy I wasn't telling you off! I was advising you on how to use this site most effectively! Glad you now know what you're doing. nell :-)

sorry been told off by helen HA HA !!dident now how to reply .Only put a thread on last night never had as much info a very big Thank you .It may take me a week to get my head round all the info . Thanks to everone and a big kiss to jess.

I've e-mailed Andy and explained how he can reply to his own thread. He did send me a private message of thanks so I know he's seen my answer, but I did say that several people were trying to help and would appreciate some feedback. nell

The only Ruth Franklins 1851 census View Record Mary Franklin abt 1804 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Wife Trowbridge Wiltshire View Record Ruth Franklin abt 1835 Studley, Wiltshire, England Daughter Trowbridge Wiltshire View Record William Franklin abt 1804 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Head Trowbridge Wiltshire View Record Emma Gerrish abt 1834 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Lodger Trowbridge Wiltshire zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz View Record Amelia Frankhin abt 1796 Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England Wife Wootton Bassett Wiltshire View Record Ann Frankhin abt 1827 Melksham, Wiltshire, England Daughter Wootton Bassett Wiltshire View Record John Frankhin abt 1800 Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England Head Wootton Bassett Wiltshire View Record Maria Frankhin abt 1841 Melksham, Wiltshire, England Daughter Wootton Bassett Wiltshire View Record Ruth Frankhin abt 1833 Melksham, Wiltshire, England Daughter Wootton Bassett Wiltshire

I'll quit there till Andy returns

jacob and his wife in 1891 with family staying Jacob Gale abt 1868 Nantyglo, Breconshire, Wales Head Seaton Cumberland Mary Jane Gale abt 1870 Bragam, Breconshire, Wales Wife Seaton Cumberland Ruth L Gale abt 1873 Nantyglo, Breconshire, Wales Sister Seaton Cumberland Ruth M Gale abt 1890 Workington, Cumberland, England Daughter Seaton Cumberland Thomas H Gale abt 1891 Workington, Cumberland, England Son Seaton Cumberland

I hope Andy appreciates how much you've put into this, Jess Reg