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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 May 2013 07:47

Hi Brian - welcome to the boards.

Seeing as Judith Ann last posted a year ago she mightn't realise there's a further response. You could click on her name to make contact and share information.

Good luck, MC

(Brian)

(Brian) Report 4 May 2013 01:25

Well - 1 year on and I am tracing Arthur Harold Parker from the other way - this post has been brilliant for me.
He was borm Plympton 1899 Registered 1900 - mother was Evelina Goodman - daughter of Ann Goss of Brixton Devon and Thomas Goodman.
Ann Goss was the daughter of William Goss of Brixton (I think) and his second wife.

William Goss was the son of Robert Goss and Mirian Cockram married in Brixton - I believe Miriam was from Buckland Monachorum and Robert maybe from Cornwall.
The Robert Goss bit is in my tree here - but I have moved to ancestry.co.uk - there is a picture of Evelina late 1800's there - I have the same ID on both sites.
All I have to do now is work on his brother Ernest Thomas Parker ( I am descended from William Goss's sister Elizabeth Goss who married Thomas Endle Stevens in Plymouth)

Judith Ann

Judith Ann Report 30 Apr 2012 22:49

hi Marie Celeste
thank you so much,very greatfull. is there any chance of finding out if my dad did have any brothers or sisters. as i am trying to find out any family over here that might remember my dad.
after my dad past away, for some reason i forgot any time that we had together.
thank you for your time
jude x

Judith Ann

Judith Ann Report 30 Apr 2012 22:43

hi Rose
thank you so much for your help,i am so greatfull.and thank you for helping me on what to do on here.
what all of you have found out for me is just amazing.
do you think there is any way of finding out any brothers or sisters that my dad might of had. i know i am asking a lot.
trying to find if any one is still alive that might of known my dad if you know what i mean
thank you for your help
jude x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Apr 2012 22:32

Hi Jude, I think the Skilton may be a red herring. From the other info looks like the family living at Folletts House around the time Charles came over in 1947 were called Palk.

At least we've got you back another generation or so. Let us know on her if you need any further help. MC

Judith Ann

Judith Ann Report 30 Apr 2012 21:22

hi Marie Celeste
thank you so much for your help.so sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. skilton no doesnt mean any thing to me. you found out so much, so greatfull to you and so many people on here for what you are doing to help me.
been so long never thought i would find any thing out.
thank you so much
jude x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Apr 2012 14:12

Death of Arthur Harold Parker's mother in-law, we can see her maiden name from her father being mentioned:

"India Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948," Honoria Winifred Ross Milbourne (1912)

name: Honoria Winifred Ross Milbourne
gender: Female
burial date: 02 Sep 1912
burial place: Gujranwala, Bengal, India
death date: 01 Sep 1912
death place:
age:
birth date:
birthplace:
occupation:
race:
marital status: Married
spouse's name:
father's name: Giles Seddons
father's birthplace:
mother's name:
mother's birthplace:
indexing project (batch) number: B75044-8
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 528146
reference number:
________________________________________________

and her birth details:

"India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," Honoria Winifred Seddon (1890)

name: Honoria Winifred Seddon
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 07 Sep 1890
baptism/christening place: Madras, Madras, India
birth date: 13 Aug 1890
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Giles Seddon
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Edith Mercy
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C75025-7
system origin: India-ODM
source film number: 521875
reference number:

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Apr 2012 14:07

Looks like the baptism of Winston Felix - it gives the mother's first names:

"India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," Winston Felicia Rossmillourne (1908)

name: Winston Felicia Rossmillourne
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Oct 1908
baptism/christening place: Madras, Madras, India
birth date: 27 Sep 1908
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: St. Clair Randolph Rossmillourne
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Honoria Winifred
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00072-7
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 527473
reference number:

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Apr 2012 13:49

Birth year is different to the death record above but there can't surely be two chaps with the same name?

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Stclair Randolph Ross-milbourne
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Age at enlistment: 38
Document Year: 1918
Regimental Number: 26524
Regiment Name: 2nd Dorset Regiment
Number of images: 14

He enlisted 08 Feb 1918 in Kirkee, India for the duration of the war. He states he is a widower and gives his next of kin as his mother Mrs A L Ross of Poona. He was born in Bangalore and was an electrical engineer. His address is given as East Street, Poona.

There are no marriage details on the record but his two children are listed as:
Winston Felix born 29/09/1908 in Madras
Patience Elvira born 22/10/1909 in Jeypore.

He was 5' 7" tall and wore glasses to correct short sightedness.

All his service was in India and he was discharged 11 Nov 1920 to Poona.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Apr 2012 13:17

Death of Arthur's father in-law:

"India Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948," St. Clair Rondolph Ross-Melbourne (1942)

name: St. Clair Rondolph Ross-Melbourne
gender: Male
burial date: 12 Jul 1942
burial place: Bangalore, Madras, India
death date: 11 Jul 1942
death place:
age: 70
birth date: 1872
birthplace:
occupation:
race:
marital status: Unknown
spouse's name:
father's name:
father's birthplace:
mother's name:
mother's birthplace:
indexing project (batch) number: B00213-3
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 527428
reference number:

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Apr 2012 13:00

For the record, this appears to be the family in 1911:


PARKER, Charles Head Married M 42 1869 Seaman Mail Tender Plympton St Mary Devon
PARKER, Evelina Wife Married F 42 1869 Devon Plympton St Maurice
PARKER, Arthur Son M 11 1900 School Devon Plympton St Maurice
PARKER, Ernest Son M 9 1902 Devon Stoke Devonport

Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub District: Plympton
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Plympton St Maurice

Address: Elm Cottages Plympton St Maurice County: Devonshire

Charles and Evelina married 16 years, only the two children at that time.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Apr 2012 22:22

Found it!


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGJH-WK5
Groom's Name: Arthur Harold Parker
Groom's Birth Date: 1900
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 28
Bride's Name: Patience Elveira Ross-Milbourne
Bride's Birth Date: 1910
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1928
Marriage Place: Murree, Bengal, India
Groom's Father's Name: Charles James Parker
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: St.Clair R. Ross-Milbourne
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75055-7
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 528981
Reference Number:
Collection: India, Marriages, 1792-1948

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Apr 2012 21:47

Probably the Skiltons:

Marriages Sep 1938
Skilton Richard H F Wright Plympton 5b 626
Wright Freda E Skilton Plympton 5b 626

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Apr 2012 21:42

Looks to be Evelina's death around the same time Charles returned to England:

Deaths Sep 1947
Parker Evelina J. 77 Plymouth 7a 552

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Apr 2012 21:17

Possible brother:

Births Jun 1901
PARKER Ernest Thomas Devonport 5b 303

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Apr 2012 20:44

Think we have the correct Arthur Harold.

Going from the census records this is his parents' marriage:

Marriages Jun 1894
Goodman Evelina Plympton 5b 443
PARKER Charles James Plympton 5b 443

Notice Evelina's maiden name.

Looks like Charles was named after his paternal grandmother and grandfather.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Apr 2012 20:32

The birth is actually in Plympton

Births Mar 1900
Parker Arthur Harold Plympton 5b 183

There's a transcription error.

Rose

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Apr 2012 17:02

I googled Follett House, Broad Park (where Charles was headed in 1947) and one entry came up in a 1952 brochure for Crufts Dog Show.

A Mrs F.E. Skilton of Follett House, Broad Park, Oreston, Plymouth entered her long haired Daschund called "Wingjays Dantes Danger" in two classes.

Judith, does that name (Skilton, not the dog!) ring any bells?

Also, found this advert for a house in the Western Morning News, 3 Jan 1947:

"6 rooms & kitch: Torquay: Centl: vac possn. All partics. Letter only - Palk, Follett House, Broad Park, Oreston"

So, was Palk the person who lived at Follett House in 1947 (when Charles arrived there) and were they advertising a property they owned?

If we can find what linked Charles to that address we might be able to find a way back to his family - maybe it was the home of a family member?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Apr 2012 16:43

Wonder if this is connected?

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Arthur Harold PARKER
Date of departure: 18 November 1921
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Bombay
Destination country: India

Date of Birth: 1900 (calculated from age)
Age: 21
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Piano Tuner
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 6
Ship: MASHOBRA
Official Number: 144222
Master's name: J H Galgey
Steamship Line: British India Steam Navigation Co.
Where bound: Bombay, India
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 5117
Passengers on voyage: 95

His last address in the UK was 24 Hobart Street, Plymouth.

Might be a tenuous link but Plymouth was where Charles was headed when he arrived in England 1947.

EDIT: This is probably the birth of the chap on the shipping record.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1900
Parker Arthur Harold Plymouth 5b 183

MarysRoots

MarysRoots Report 28 Apr 2012 15:59

Why would the birth cert not give you parents names on it ???

Mary