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Traced back to 1787 Patrick lived to 103 and married 3 times. Irish born and lived in Northumberland until his death in 1890. Keen to trace further back

Have you got any of the marriage certificates??

Do any of them certificates show the name of his father??


That is a very important piece of evidence to help us find anything for you.


As you must realise, Quinn is quite a common name in Ireland, and so is Patrick :-)




sylvia

for reference purposes, and to help us ......... is this your Patrick in 1881


1881 Census

Name: Patrick Quinn
Age: 91
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Quinn
Gender: Male
Where born: Galway Co, Ireland

Civil parish: Cowpen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 12 Victoria St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Retired Farmer

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Blyth

Patrick Quinn 91
Margaret Quinn 48 b.ca 1833, Co. Galway
Thomas Quinn 18 b.ca 1863, Northumberland, Ship Yard Labourer
Francis Quinn 13 b.ca 1868, Northumberland, Ship Yard Labourer
Mary Quinn 15 b.ca 1866, Northumberland, Domestic Servant
Bridget Quinn 10 b.ca 1871, Northumberland, Scholar
Margaret Quinn 21 b.ca 1860, Northumberland, Domestic Servant
John Cavannah 35 b. Co. Galway, Boarder



Is Margaret Quinn, b. 1860, daughter of a previous wife????




sylvia

For reference -

Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%)
Quinn Patrick 103 Tynemouth 10b 177

Claire...Have you actually "Traced" Patrick back or are you using his Birth Year as an indicator...

When did you first locate him outside of Ireland.....?



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Both 1881 census and death is him yes thanks. I have also traced him in 1871 but surname differs but unable to trace any further back nor trace this marriage or the birth of an older son (also Patrick b1856) born in Manchester. He eventually moved and lived in Northumberland. I am keen to trace as this was his third marriage and each wife gave birth to 12 children!

Have you any of the children's birth certificates for the maiden name of the wife?
Thanks

Added:
Could you post the 1871 census, please?

Added, for ref, and not as old?:
1871 England Census
Patrick Ewin Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Ewin
Gender: Male Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Cowpen Ecclesiastical parish: Horton
Town: Cowpen Quay County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Blyth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 85 Piece: 5132 Folio: 81 Page Number: 16
Patrick Ewin 70
Margaret Ewin 40
Patrick Ewin 15 Manchester
Margaret Ewin 11 Horton, Northumberland
Thomas Ewin 8
Mary Ewin 5
Frances Ewin 3
Bridget Ewin 1
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5132; Folio: 81; Page: 16; GSU roll: 847400.

The 1871 that refers is as above in the name of Ewan. My great grandfathers birth certificate shows maiden name but not very clear but a relative believes it may have been Hoban but as yet not traced marriage cert

What is the name of your great grandfather, and year and place of birth?
How do you know that each wife had 12 children if you cannot trace them in the censuses?
Thank-you

I found my great great grandfather Patrick's obituary in the newspaper after hearing this tale from my family - the paper confirmed he had over 200 grandchildren. I also heard this same tale from a distant relative who contacted me on this site.

My great grandfather was Francis And was born 1868 in Northumberand

Have you considered getting a birth certificate of one of Francis's siblings, to double check his Mother's maiden name?
Did the obituary list all of his wives?

Francis' older sister's birth certificate shows similar mother maiden name. His father was born Galway and older brother born Manchester. Obituary shows he lived in Blyth for fifty years but just confirms 3 x married no wives names. He outlived his last wife. Thanks for your help I'll try and find birth certs for Francis' siblings

????

Patrick's birth (Chorley if mmn - Hoban)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
QUIN Patrick Chorley Preston HOBAN CHO/21/99

Thanks for that. I think I have found couple bapitism records PatriciI and Margarita listed as parents