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1939 National Registration Card Uk

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Mar 2013 08:44

Lol - not really ;-)


patchem Report 1 Mar 2013 23:45

If you search for 'John Lewis' and 'Shazzlou', there are 28 threads, so I think that is probably exhaustive research.
Do you really want all 28, DetEcTive?


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Mar 2013 11:29

Could you copy the thread addresses onto here please, if you haven't deleted them?

If you look in 'my threads' to the left of the board, and then click 'My threads - started' in the body of the text on the next page, it will help to identify them.


Shazzlou Report 28 Feb 2013 18:48

Thanks for the replies folks. I have put messages on here and many people have tried with no success I also hired a researcher and they had no luck either. There is a John Joseph Lewis born Wolverhampton 1868 but he wed a lady named Agnes and my gt grandad wed a lady named Penelope in 1891 in Ireland so its not the same John. My John Joseph Lewis had a father named Joseph who was listed as occupation Blacksmith on marriage certificate of 1891 on his army paper dated 7th Oct 1886 his father was listed as next of kin and living in Jamaica Row Birmingham.
Thanks Sharon


Kuros Report 28 Feb 2013 14:46

Shazzlou, have you thought to put your great-grandfather's details on here to see if anyone can help find his birth? People on here are good at solving the impossible.


CupCakes Report 28 Feb 2013 08:48

Just thought some people may be interested in where to get the information.

Full information about the 1939 National Registration Card is here

To apply and form details see

Some people may feel the £42 is rather expensive

:-D :-D :-D

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 27 Feb 2013 22:41

Denis obviously means people quibbling over info from the documents being mentioned. No breach of security whatsoever. - how ridiculous for it to be even discussed


Jonesey Report 27 Feb 2013 19:04

Although I have no idea where it now is I can still remember the 4 letters and the numbers which followed it from my Identity card.

The same letters and numbers appeared on front of the buff folder containing my medical history notes which was held at my GP's practice. Whenever you visited the practice the receptionist would give you the folder to hand over to the doctor when you were called to enter his surgery. The last time that I would have seen that folder would have been in about 1963 before I moved house, effectively leaving my GP's catchment area. Being blessed with good health I did not need to register with another GP until 1988 and now of course such records are held on computer.


patchem Report 27 Feb 2013 18:05

Which above?
What irritating nonsense?
Surely you do not mean Thomas, who does not appear to have been side-tracked?


Denis Report 27 Feb 2013 08:16

The above is the sort of irritating nonsense that sets GR apart from most other family history forums. A potentially fascinating discussion totally sidetracked.


Thomas Report 26 Feb 2013 23:59

I ordered one for my grandfather - in my case from Scotland. The information you get is an extract from September 1939 that has: address, surname and other names, gender, date of birth, marital status, occupation. It does not include the place of birth. An extract is only available where you can show that the person is deceased.

For some reason it costs £15 for a national registration record extract in Scotland compared to £42 in England. There are no records for Northern Ireland.

National Registration gave each person a registration number that appeared on their ID Card. These numbers were used to create the NHS numbers for people in England, Wales and Scotland and the National Registration records retained by the relevant NHS bodies.

Northern Ireland used a different method to create the NHS Register and their National Registration records were destroyed in the 1950s.

The National Registration numbers were replaced in 1993 by a different system comprising a different series of numbers.

I hope this helps.



Ann Report 26 Feb 2013 19:49

Thank you , DetEcTive


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Feb 2013 19:41

Ann - RR is 'Report'. It used to be called 'Request Review' hence RR


Ann Report 26 Feb 2013 18:47

What is RR ING? What an irritable thread!


ElizabethK Report 26 Feb 2013 09:33

Apologies Roy for my lack of courtesy

I panicked

I did tell GR it was my own fault



Porkie_Pie Report 25 Feb 2013 21:51

Your old id card number is not any type of security breach

Your card number consisted of a four letter enumeration district code plus the line number of the schedule that was completed by the enumerator,

Whilst this could id an individual on the1939 National Registration, for anyone to get that info proof that the person is deceased is required

Access to the 1911 census is more of a risk because some people on that census are still alive today and the 1939 National Registration Card was a mini census so whats the difference?

1939 mini census info can be accessed for deceased persons only but 1911 census is open to all regardless even when the person is still alive

Shirley has posted the same id card number before



patchem Report 25 Feb 2013 19:55

Possibly Shirley posted a just-slightly-altered identity card number to confuse anyone with bad intentions.


Porkie_Pie Report 25 Feb 2013 16:40

ElizabethK 16:13 Quote, I have amended my entry and asked for Roy's to be RRd -he may like to re post an amended version as the basis was useful

If its OK to amend Your post then at least have the courtesy to ask me to amend my post instead of RRing

May be it was ElizabethK post at 14:49 that gave personal info? I just interpreted it, In future i may just start RRing every time i see such info

I have now removed all my post's with info on this thread



KenSE Report 25 Feb 2013 16:33

I am sorry Roy, I was hoping to avoid any RRs. I PMed Elizabeth before your post appeared.

I realise it is not exact information but it is more personal than appearrs at first glance.
I also think it unwise for Shirley to put her card identity on here.

Perhaps I am being over cautious.


Porkie_Pie Report 25 Feb 2013 16:19

Elizabeth, You or KenSE could have asked ME to remove that info either via PM or on this thread,


As for re post an amended version as the basis was useful

It would also be useful not to be RRed when trying to help, So if you think it was useful then YOU RRed it then YOU re post it