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http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=1635383

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Although the photo is not on the site, the details read

Cemetery: Gillingham (Woodlands) Cemetery
Country: England
Area: Kent
Rank: Leading Stoker
Official Number: K/11676.
Unit: H.M.S. Pembroke.
Force: Royal Navy
Nationality: British
Details:
3rd September 1917. Naval.?22.?1170.

The ?? probably means that the inscription is illegible in some places

Choccy,

Your help is brilliant...do you know my Aunt, Charles William Moore who dies in 2004 widow lives in Gillingham...I will tell her to visit her husband's Uncle's Percy' grave in her home town. That is very touching. In fact quite spooky.
I am deeply grateful to you for this.

I ctoo can visit this grave as I am in Hampshire.- next door county!

Thank you all so much for your very kind help.

I am so very appreciative for this.

kind regards,
Noreen

I have to thank you both so much
patchem...you have found out so much more for me and my 94 year old father who I am reading this to.!

Margee...spot on... my father Philip Normand Moore was born 1918 in Hngate York ...and still with me!
.
Margaret Moore 1916 was born in Conway because her father Charles W Moore was posted there in the WW1.
This is wondeful help -never knew there were such wonderful helpful people here at Genes reunited.
Thank you so much
Noreen Moore

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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Percy Edwin Moore (Seaman, RN)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age: 24
Spouse Name: Annie Eliza Wells
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Aug 1913
Parish: Holy Trinity
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Charles William Moore (decd) - Blacksmith
Spouse Father Name: James Wells
Register Type: Parish Register

Address - 277 Latimer Road



UK, Royal Navy and Royal Marine War Graves Roll, 1914-1919

Name: Percy Edwin Moore
Rank: Act Ldg Sto
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1889
Birth Place: Kensington, London, England
Branch of Service: Royal Navy
Cause of Death: Killed or died as a direct result of enemy action
Official Number Port Division: K.11676. (Ch)
Death Date: 3 Sep 1917
Ship or Unit: HMS Pembroke
Location of Grave: C. of E. 22. 1170. C.
Name and Address of Cemetery: New Cemetery, Gillingham, Kent
Relatives Notified and Address: Wife: Annie Elizabeth. 277, Latimer Rd, North Kensington,

Children of Charles William & Rose?

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
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Moore Charles W McDonald York 9d 85

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Moore Margaret W McDonald Conway 11b 713

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Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
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Moore Philip N McDonald York 9d 19

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Interesting:
Charles Thomas Moore
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1878
Father's Name: Charles Moore farrier 268 Lancaster Road
Mother's Name: Eliza Moore
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

This looks like Daisy:
Daisy Eva Catherine Moore
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1891 born Jan 2nd
Father's Name: Charles Moore (farrier) 3 Wood Lane
Mother's Name: Eliza Moore
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shepherds Bush St Stephen
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers

and Percy
Percy Edwin Moore
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 May 1889 16th April birth
Father's Name: Charles Moore farrier 3 Wood lane
Mother's Name: Eliza Moore
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shepherds Bush St Stephen
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers

and Alice
Alice Harriet Moore
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Oct 1873
Father's Name: Charles Moore farrier 17 Bramley Road
Mother's Name: Eliza Moore
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

Message from Noreen:

Charles W Moore 1879 Apr-May-Jun 1960 York Yorkshire East Riding

I have my info re my grandfather Charles William Moore, (brother of Percival Moore) who was born 1879 in London... married Rose Gertrude Mc Donald who was ten years younger than him, in 1913. He was a regular soldier and in 1916 he was posted to Wales to a place called Conway leading up to end of WW1 in 1918.

Then C W Moore and Wife Rose moved to 20 Hungate for the birth of my father Philip on 1 st October 1918.

Pleased you found your way here Noreen!

Which one of the children are you descended from? Will try to find some further records.

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Hi Marie Celeste,

I think you are right - patchem is very much close or possibly the exact family. It seems I have been given my great grandmothers name , which I was also desperately searching. I think Patchem has done an excellent result.
Huge thanks all round, I am so grateful
Noreen Moore

I can't find him on any census with the family you mention.

On the 1891 that patchem posted above the father Charles is a farrier. Given the siblings names I'm sure that must be the right family and that there's an error about Percy/Percival's birth year.

Noreen, could you confirm if the 1891 census posted above is the right family (just use the "add your reply" box below).

pm from Noreen:

"His father's name was Charles William Moore and he was a Farrier/Blacksmith.
Kind regards,
Noreen Moore"

(Have explained about replying on here)

This seems to be the closest Percival on the London baptisms. Birthdate was 12 Nov. 1878, Father a gentleman, Address 13 Shatford Place.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Percival Thomas Joseph Moore Name: Percival Thomas Joseph Moore
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1879
Father's Name: Henry Thomas Moore
Mother's Name: Ernestina Catharina Moore
Parish or Poor Law Union: Addlestone
County: Surrey
Register Type: Parish Registers

These names ring a bell, was he previously found as Percy?

However, have searched and can't find a thread.

If Percival was born 1877 he'd be a little old to be killed in WW1.

Noreen

What is the source of your info about these people?

Ancestry shows these deaths for Charles, all with middle initials, could you indicate if any of them is the correct one, please?
Charles H Moore abt 1879 Apr-May-Jun 1960 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
Charles R Moore abt 1879 Apr-May-Jun 1960 Bideford Devon
Charles W Moore abt 1879 Apr-May-Jun 1960 York Yorkshire East Riding

Added:
Or did he die outside of England and Wales ?
Thanks

Is this the Charles (1879 - 1960) as it has some of the correct siblings in the family, (but Percy does not fit in with the suggested birth date and military record found)
1891 England Census
Charles Moore Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Moore Mother's Name: Eliza Moore
Gender: Male Where born: Notting Hill, London, England
Civil parish: Hammersmith Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens County/Island: London Country: England
Street Address: Occupation:
Registration district: Fulham Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Piece: 43 Folio: 62 Page Number: 27
Charles Moore 40
Eliza Moore 40
xxxAlice Moore 17
xxxCharles Moore 12
Ada Moore 9
Thomas Moore 8
Nellie Moore 6
Fredie Moore 4
xxxJohn Moore 3
xxxPercy Moore 1
Daisy Moore 2/12
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 43; Folio: 62; Page: 27; GSU Roll: 6095153.

If Percival born 1877 and Charles born 1879, they should be together on the 1881 census. Have you found them?
Thanks