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G007 Report 23 Jun 2013 23:56

A friend has asked me if I can find any info on: Samuel Hislop born abt 1900 perhaps in Portsmouth or Romey, who married Catherine Phillips. Who were their parents ? I thought I would ask for help on here... any offers ? (Catherine may have had a middle name beginning with the letter A ?) That's all the info I was given.


GlitterBaby Report 23 Jun 2013 23:58

Marriage cert would be useful


G007 Report 24 Jun 2013 00:00

I was just told this info GlitterBaby, I have nothing else to go on...


GlitterBaby Report 24 Jun 2013 00:05

Not at the moment finding the marriage or any birth for Samuel around that time


GlitterBaby Report 24 Jun 2013 00:07

Okay found it

Name: Catherine A Phillips
Spouse Surname: Hislop
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1930
Registration District: Romsey
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 297

But the groom is Cecil S N Hislop

So is Samuel a middle name ?

Rule this out as Cecil has Stanley as a middle name and born 1906

Name: Cecil S N Hislop
Birth Date: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Mar 1960
Age at Death: 54
Registration District: Poole
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 7c
Page: 766

Name: Cecil Staley Nott Hislop
Probate Date: 26 May 1960
Death Date: 6 Feb 1960
Death Place: Hampshire, England
Registry: Winchester, England

Administration to Violet Annie Hislop, widow

Marriages Dec 1949 (>99%)

HISLOP Cecil S N Perry Gosport 6b 623
Kilby Robert G Sullivan Gosport 6b 623
Perry Violet A Hislop Gosport 6b 623
Sullivan Marion B Kilby Gosport 6b 623

Marriages Mar 1950 (>99%)

Hislop Catherine A Bass Portsmouth 6b 902

Marriages Mar 1950 (>99%)

Bass Moss Phillips Portsmouth 6b 902a
Bass Moss Hislop Portsmouth 6b 902a

Name: Catherine A Bass
Birth Date: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Mar 1959
Age at Death: 47
Registration District: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 689

Name: Catherine Ada Bass
Probate Date: 25 May 1959
Death Date: 23 Mar 1959
Death Place: Portsmouth
Registry: Winchester, England

Administration to Moss Bass


GlitterBaby Report 24 Jun 2013 00:33

You need to ask your friend some more questions on this one.

If the info about is correct then possible birth for Catherine in 1912 in Swansea.


GlitterBaby Report 24 Jun 2013 00:36

1911 possible for Cecil

Name: Thomas Hislop
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Willesden
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 43 Westbury Rd, Willesden, London
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration District: Willesden
Registration District Number: 129
Sub-registration District: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Household Schedule Number: 319
Piece: 7036
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hislop 39
Margaret Hislop 37
Thomas Hislop 14
Charles Hislop 12
Winifred Hislop 11
Eric Hislop 9
John Hislop 7
Cecil Hislop 5
Maud Hislop 4
Ernest Hislop 7/12

Ask if any of the names ring a bell

Name: Thomas William Hislop
Birth Place: King's Cross, Middlesex
Residence: Willesden, Middlesex
Death Date: 9 Apr 1916
Death Location: Mesopotamia
Enlistment Location: Willesden, Middlesex
Rank: L/Corporal
Regiment: Duke of Edinburgh's (Wiltshire Regiment)
Battalion: 5th Battalion
Number: 20399
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Asiatic Theatres
Comments: Formerly 15136, Middlesex Regiment.

Rank:Lance Corporal
Service No:20399
Date of Death:09/04/1916
Regiment/Service:Wiltshire Regiment
5th Bn.
Panel ReferencePanel 30 and 64.
Additional Information:
Son of Margaret S. Woodcock (formerly Hislop), of 14, Delva Place, Romsey, Hampshire, and the late Thomas Hislop

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)

FREEMAN Margaret Susannah Holborn 1b 1417
GRANT Elizabeth Jane Holborn 1b 1417
Hislop Thomas William Holborn 1b 1417
PEACH George Edward Holborn 1b 1417

Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)

Goodman Florence Nash Willesden 3a 668
Hislop Margaret S Woodcock Willesden 3a 668
Nash John Goodman Willesden 3a 668
Woodcock William C Hislop Willesden 3a 668

Name: Margaret S Woodcock
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Mar 1931
Age at Death: 57
Registration District: Romsey
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 161


G007 Report 24 Jun 2013 10:33

Ok thanks very much for ALL the information, will have to get back to my friend and ask if he has other info...


GlitterBaby Report 24 Jun 2013 11:56

Certainly be interested to see if any of the info is correct or are we back to the drawing board on this.


G007 Report 24 Jun 2013 14:42

Ok GlitterBaby.


G007 Report 24 Aug 2013 10:16

I had a chat with my friend about this, and the info above does fit. Regarding Samuel, it seems he was just called that for some reason.


G007 Report 8 Sep 2013 10:29

I would like to know more about Catherine A Phillips parents... ? I have been told by my friend that her father had some high rank in the army, I think WW1 ? Catherine A Phillips married a person with the surname: Hislop.


ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2013 11:50

If the Catherine Phillips whose details GlitterBaby posted in June is the correct one, this may be her birth:

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Phillips Catherine A Roberts Swansea 11a 2281

In which case this is a possibility for her parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
Phillips Thomas Henry Swansea 11a 1448
Roberts Arabella Matilda Swansea 11a 1448


ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2013 12:03

On the other hand, as the Catherine who married Cecil Hislop did so in Hampshire, and also died there, this may be a more likely birth, rather than the one above:

Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Phillips Catherine Christchurch 2b 605


ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2013 12:10


1911 England Census about Catherine Phillips
Name: Catherine Phillips
Age in 1911: 4/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bransgore, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Hill Farm, Bransgore, Christchurch
Registration District: Christchurch
Registration District Number: 95
Sub-registration District: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Schedule Number: 245
Piece: 5812
Household Members:
Name Age
John Phillips 29 - farmer & haulier, born Bransgore,Hampshire
Leslie Phillips 29 - born Kinson, Dorset,( nee Crocker, 1881, per FreeBMD)
Gladys Phillips 5
Catherine Phillips 4/12


G007 Report 8 Sep 2013 16:10

Thanks very much for this very interesting info ArgyllGran, I will note this down... Brill! :-D


ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2013 17:12

GHeather -
Please remember, it's only speculation! Your friend needs to buy the marriage certificate, as posted by GlitterBaby in June, to verify the parents' names


G007 Report 8 Sep 2013 17:58

Ok thanks ArgyllGran. I've just had a chat with him on the 'phone about this, and he is pretty sure that Catherine A Phillips who was born in Bransgore, Christchurch, Hampshire is the correct family line... So, it seems her father was John Phillips, mother: Leslie (spelted without the y) maiden surname unknown at the moment... ?


G007 Report 8 Sep 2013 18:02

Catherine A Phillips parents: John Phillips and ?


jax Report 8 Sep 2013 19:17

ArgyllGran has already told you above

It was not hard to find

Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)

Barrow John Ringwood 2b 1524 Scan available - click to view
>>>>Crocker Leslie Ringwood 2b 1524 Scan available - click to view
>>>>Phillips John Ringwood 2b 1524 Scan available - click to view
Reeks Emma Jane Ringwood 2b 1524 Scan available - click to view