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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 11:13

THIS is the marriage of the daughter of Thomas Mann, TOY MAKER

Name: Harriet Mann
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1854
Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1873
Marriage Place: St Andrew, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: Thomas Mann.....TOY MAKER
Spouse: William Richard Cole
Register Type: Parish Register

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Feb 2022 12:08

Oh that's mixed things up a bit ErikaH! So this family which is not the one that Caroline is looking for.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
42, Nelson Street, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Rich Cole Head
Married Male 27 1854 General cabinet maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Harriet Cole Wife
Married Female 26 1855 Household duties Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
George Percy Cole Son
Single Male 3 1878 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Alfred Walter Cole Son
Single Male 1 1880 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 12:19

No, it can't be. Her line is STEDMAN

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 12:38

Posting ONLY because of the occupation......can't find ANY other definite records for this trio

1881
19, Essex Street, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex, England
Thomas Mann Head Married Male 53 1828 Hawker Sussex, England
Sally Mann Wife Married Female 54 1827 - St George in the East, Middlesex, England
John Chapman Grand son Single Male 11 1870 - St George in the East, Middlesex, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 13:31

Looking at the 1875 marriage - the witnesses also witnessed the marriage between Sarah Ann Mitchell and Henry Charles Willing on the same day, so they may be totally unconnected

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2022 13:46


Ancestry's transcription of that 1881 census posted by ErikaH at 12:38 says that Thomas's birthplace was Farrier, Sussex, but looking at the image, it could be Tarring.

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Thomas Mann
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Thomas Mann
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1831
Baptism Place: West Tarring, Sussex, England
Father: Thomas Mann
Mother: Harriet
FHL Film Number: 2147007
Reference ID: 43

Doesn't help, though, as I don't see any other record for him.



Re Harriet who married Henry Stedman - birth given as 1857, 1861, 1860, 1861 in censuses after marriage.
Birthplace always Whitechapel.

But if she really was "of full age" in 1875, she should have been born in 1854 or earlier

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2022 21:30

PM’s exchanged. Asked Caroline to respond on here………….a couple of hours ago

alviegal

alviegal Report 15 Feb 2022 13:01

The Thomas baptised in 1831 in West Tarring is resident in Bexley, Kent. His father is a traveller.
The image can be seen on https://www.familysearch.org/

EDIT His abode is Bexley, Kent.

alviegal

alviegal Report 15 Feb 2022 13:30

????

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Barnes, Richmond upon Thames, Surrey, England

Household members (8 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Man Male 30 1811 -
Harriet Man Female 30 1811 -
Thomas Man Male 10 1831 -
Robert Man Male 5 1836 -
Ellen Man Female 5 1836 -
James Man Male 4 1837 -
William Man Male 2 1839 Surrey, England
Harriet Man Female 0 1841 Surrey, England