Genealogy Chat

Merry you are on a role yes that would be them as Dinah is my Great grandmother. I have Clara surname unknown as their mother so it's interesting to see her listed there as servant. Thanks Fred I'll check that site out as well, also add it to my list of where to find......... Joe

Nice one Steve!! (soldiers of the Queen, Bandsmen website at the end of page one of this thread) That is the sort of braiding, the pattern is identical!! Seeing the pic you suggested reminds me that Joe's pic is definitely later....I'm sure it's WW1....... I think I made a mistake in saying Alfred's jacket is double breasted......it's the angle he is sitting at hides the join! I cannot be certain that Alfred's jacket has the pale piping found the borders......??? Also if his rank is on his right sleeve then he has this conveniently hidden!!!! Merry

Back after lunch! Merry

I can't find them in 1891 and 1901............Partly because I can smell my lunch burning!! Back later. Merry

Thanks everyone especially you Merry. I owe you big time. But would a bandy have a riding crop and spurs? So that means it's definatly the younger one, but then where would the older Alfred in the 1881 census you check Merry? Hope Lunch is good, what are you having? Joe STEVE tried to acess that site but couldn't, and yes I removed the brackets.

Gosh, it's difficult to think..........Hubby point out that only some instruments can be played on horseback, because you would need one hand for the reins???? I'm sure I've seen buglers on horse back and also playing those big drums? (both hands????) Going to look at the census (I'm sure someone else will know more about army bands!) Lunch was some heat-in-the-oven cottage pie, special offer at the supermarket. It was disgusting!! Merry

Here's that website again: http://www.soldiersofthequeen(.)com/page5l-BandsmanCorporalTedLeGrosPrinceAlfredsGuards.html Merry

The calvery had bands on horses. MY dad was a bandsman not horses and he had day to day uniform and two dress uniforms as he played at army partys etc; this was not untill 1930s though hope this helps Val

I can't find them in 1901 or 1891 Gggrrrr Is that your Dinah marrying in 1896 to John Hall?? Can't find them either!! Expect you have though?? Was she still in the London area? Merry

The address where they are in 1881 is very POSH - 11 Hobart Place, Westminster (Knightsbridge)!! All the neighbours are titled or in important professions. Some of the properties have caretakers and I suppose this is the role Clara was taking......Maybe hubby was in the services and out of the country too?? Merry

Yep Dinah did marry John Hall and they stayed around the London area to a degree. Married in Tooting (hope that's right), my grandfather Earnest born 1903 was born in Wandsworth. Up until 1901 there would have been three children Mildred, Dorothy and Charles. I have Chalres being born 1901 though, so it depends on when the census was done. Thanks Merry I'll try that link again. I know Dinah's sister Louise was born in Westminster. Joe

Merry Can you not see any detail on the cap badge at all??? coz i'm working in the dark lol Steve

LOL Steve, it's V fuzzy! It looks exactly like a pendant hanging from a necklace (only no necklace!)!! It's oval, light coloured round the edge.....even width border all the way round........the darker oval central part is probably where the emblem is, but I can see nothing at all...........At the top of the oval there may be a small clasp that looks as if it is ''hooking'' the oval part on to the small ridge which runs along the top edge of the wide ribbon that goes round the cap......but I may not be seeing what is really there! There, clear as mud!!???? Merry

When I say oval.....it's about 25% taller than it is wide! Merry

Thanks for this everyone. I'm sure it has you bugged now and determined to find out what it is. I get the same it'll nag me till I find out. Keep up the great work on here, it's very appreciated. :-)) Gypsy Joe

Off on a tangent here, but here is your Dinah in 1901.....now Susan!! Charles H Hall abt 1901 Battersea, London, England Son Battersea London Dorothy L Hall abt 1900 Battersea, London, England Daughter Battersea London Edith A Hall abt 1885 Battersea, London, England Daughter Battersea London Herts J Hall abt 1886 Battersea, London, England Son Battersea London John Hall abt 1860 Laxfield, Suffolk, England Head Battersea London Mildred H Hall abt 1898 Battersea, London, England Daughter Battersea London Susan E Hall abt 1866 Aldershot, Hampshire, England Wife Battersea London Well, I think it's them.....the three children you mentioned are there, Mildred, Dorothy and Charles (aged under one month). So why mum is down as Susan and has had ten years added to her age is a mystery!! At least she has the right place of birth! John hall was married before I suppose....given the older two children. (that boy is Herbert J, not Herts J, I think!!) Merry

Merry Have a look here it might help or not lol http://www.militarybadges(.)org.uk/badges/cavindex.htm Steve its got lots of pics lol

Thanks for that Merry, I have no idea. John was married prior to Dinah. Don't know her name but the Children were Bertram and Edith. I have him marrying Dinah in 1896 and her middle name was Elizabeth. Most of this information was from great aunt Mary John and Dinahs youngest going on the best of her recolection, unfortunatly she's now deceased so no checking on that one I'm afaid. Gypsy Joe

I'll leave this in the capable hands of you lot, I'm off to bed now it's 2247 (1047pm) here in China and I've got 6yr old to teach tomorrow. Goodnight Gypsy Joe xx

Well, Edith is right, and I would have thought the names Herbert and Bertram might be easily mixed up......Mildred and Darothy were fairly unusual names and to get both together with a mum from aldershot looks good to me! The 1901 census was taken 31st march, so baby Charles would be born about end of Feb. You could get Clare's name from this cert: Births Jun 1873 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAVIS Alfred Edward W Farnham 2a 78 Steve......going to look at badges now..... Merry