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so then lets look at this from another direction have you found Louisa on the 1901 census

This must be 1891:

Louisa M A Pique
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Silvertown W Ham, London, England

Civil Parish: Guston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Guston
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry W Irons 47
Mary A Irons 37
Lewis H Pique 11
Louisa M A Pique 8
Emma Maria Sheldon 70

so here she is living with the Irons on the 1891.

Name: Louisa M A Pique
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Silvertown W Ham, London, England

Civil Parish: Guston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Guston
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:33 East cliff

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry W Irons 47
Mary A Irons 37
Lewis H Pique 11
Louisa M A Pique 8
Emma Maria Sheldon 70


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 742; Folio 79; Page 2; GSU roll: 6095852.

so she only 18 by 1901 !! shes not showing as yet still looking for 1901

Henry W Irons
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Dover, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Dover
Ecclesiastical parish: Guston St Martin
Town: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
Henry W Irons 57
>>>>Louisa M A Irons 18
Mary A Irons 47
Francis James 21
Martin F Leah 23
Edward Reynolds 21

Looks like another Louisa Irons in the area!

Louisa Irons abt 1883 Dover, Kent, England Servant Dover Kent

& the birth ref for this one:

Births Mar 1883 (>99%)
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Irons Louisa Fanny Dover 2a 1006


I don't believe it - what a coincidence! Same name, same age, same page of marriages as a William Green!

so shes listed as Louisa Ma Irons on the 1901 so still not married , her child born 1905 so that narrows it down a bit

Name: Henry W Irons
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Dover, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Dover
Ecclesiastical parish: Guston St Martin
Town: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
Henry W Irons 57
Louisa M A Irons 18
Mary A Irons 47
Francis James 21
Martin F Leah 23
Edward Reynolds 21

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 839; Folio: 91; Page: 32.
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And this is your Louisa's birth ref:

Births Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Pique Louisa Mary A W. Ham 4a 74

Shirley, do you think Susan's gone to bed & left us to it? :-))

I've found the other Louisa on 1891 with parents Frank & Emma, but this isn't helping us find her Louisa's marriage cert.

Angela

This must be her remarriage:

Marriages Jun 1910
GREEN Louisa Mary A Dover 2a 2006

Rose

Hello again all,
never has my flabber been so gasted!!
I'll have to take a mo to digest all of this.
I'm not quite sure what to do next.
Sue

What was William's occupation?

Rose

Susan

This is a bit bizarre but.......

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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BECKETT Charles Driffield 9d 619
>>>>Green William Driffield 9d 619
HART Mary Emma Driffield 9d 619
>>>>Pigne Louisa Driffield 9d 619
>>>>Pigue Louisa Driffield 9d 619

Why East Yorkshire?

have searched Ancestry from 1901 to 1905 but no marriage found for Louisa Pique.


Only one found but discounted was Dec qtr 1901 Fanny Louisa pique Epsom 2a 52 BUT no William green in the same qtr with matching ref.

Seems they may not have married then??

Another child:

Births Sep 1917
Gilbert Charles W J Pique Dover 2a 1620

Rose

How do you know William was dead by 1906?

There's no death in Dover.

Rose

shes not listed as PIQUE in dec qtr on ancestry but the PIGNE one is

Hi Rose,
Williams occupation on his marriage cert was a Crane Driver.

Have you got Williams death cert

I can't find a birth ref for Louisa Pigue/Pigne. The image for that marriage is definitely Pigue as it's printed, not handwritten - but often q's are mistaken for g's. I'd reckon it's a good bet - worth buying.

Angela